re: This Torrance Gibson Kid Looks Unreal

Not worried. Both Urban and the U love to negative recruit when they're out of the game and presently they're out of the game and have been for a while. If they can get the leader to back off and then swoop in and with an offer/open spot they can and will do it (they've down such things before).

This is the underbelly of crooting. The dirty of the dirty and it wouldn't surprise me if it's not more than just what I described. Memba the UF player that wouldn't say how Urban convinced/compelled him into committing to UF? Some coaches/teams play nastier than others. And the U and OSU haven't been in this thing for a while yet suddenly they pop up attached to this.

Consider the likely source. Knowing how they operate I'll believe such things when I see it.

Who knows how many rumors are really true involving recruiting? I read on several other boards a few weeks ago that several schools had also backed off Tim Settle because his family was asking for money

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The rumors of Ohio State and Auburn backing off continue to grow. Miami is said to be taking a pass on him as well. Many schools have concerns regarding him

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I believe the Auburn 247 site has reported Auburn is no longer recruiting Torrance Gibson very hard, but I haven't heard anybody related to Auburn bring up any NCAA issues. Auburn coaches just apparently believe Deondre Francois is a better quarterback and guys like John Burt are better receivers

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It's funny, but when interviewed last year Vonn Bell claimed that Alabama and Ohio State did not negative recruit, but Butch Jones and Tennessee did. You say these things and act like they are true, but you have no idea.

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You are mistaken both in terms of the year(s) and the coach. Vonn Bell was a class of 2013 recruit (his recruitment would've really started up in late 2011 and 2012 and he would've signed in 2013 - 99 percent of his crootin time was spent under Dooley) - last year's class was 2014. Jones did reach out to Vonn Bell and Bell had nice things to say but CBJ had only just been hired with less than a month to repair the damage. Dooley, OTOH, didn't bother with Vonn Bell which left a bad taste for UT, especially since Vonn was a UT fan who was recruited by everyone BUT Dooley. Even though, we made up ground there after Jones was hired and Bell liked Jones, there just wasn't time to undo the damage or neglect.

Nick Chubb, who signed with UGA in 2014, provided some insight into his recruitment in an interview with the AJC in May of this year:

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Which college coach was the hardest to turn down?

“Probably Coach (Butch) Jones from Tennessee. He just really believed in me. We had a good relationship. He was always calling me and talking, not even about football. He would ask me about my day. He was really into me, you know. Being that close to him, it was pretty hard telling him I wasn’t going to Tennessee. He was like ‘I’m sorry you’re not coming, but I’ll still be keeping up with you.’”

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Says a lot, imo, as Chubb has no incentive to sing Jones' praises. LINK /

And FWIW, I'm not saying we don't or will never do it but I'm sure that kind of thing is more the domain of low level assistants for us. Also, there's negative recruiting and then there's negative recruiting Miami and OSU under Urbz have always had a rep for standing alone in how low they're willing to go. We're also certainly not free of all recruiting sins - we've done some things I don't like.

However, the overwhelming positivity this staff has is exceptional. I've never seen anything like it and it's contagious.

The rumor source has been revealed. A Florida reporter posted it on a Miami insider paysite forum and eventually had to backtrack. It was all directed at how UT was corrupt too. If it changed your mind based on these whispers, I would suggest you reconsider.

Dirty crootin' going on big time.

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You are mistaken both in terms of the year(s) and the coach.

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If I am not mistaken last year was 2013, this year being 2014 and all. The interview took place in the weeks leading up to signing day, and Butch Jones most definitely was the coach at UT. Incidentally, he also mentioned Clemson as being heavily involved in the negative recruiting.

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then there's negative recruiting Miami and OSU under Urbz have always had a rep for standing alone in how low they're willing to go

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Sounds like Urbz really has your jimmies rustled. I have heard numerous times about recruits being recruited by both Bama and OSU saying that they are two of the schools that don't negative recruit, probably because they don't have to.

Has it been confirmed that Torrance Gibson is the Willie Williams of this class? Haven't kept up with his recruitment much. Obviously some news broke recently that explains why schools backed off. How much of that was true? Who all backed off? Are any SEC teams still trying to sign this guy?

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Reading comprehension is not your friend.

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He is from Tennessee, what did you expect?

To give you the most simple example to prove how misguided your blanket statement is, Butch has explicitly pointed out Alabama's depth chart. Would you say that is positive or negative recruiting?

Now I could tell you other things I have heard that he has said, but since I was not there to here it from the source itself I will not credit it as fact here.

As for doing a literature or Google search to prove a point to you, no thanks.

Tried to ask for one earlier myself. Got nothing