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Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:45 am
Posted by Tooncesridesagain
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:45 am
Serious question... How are they able to sign so many kids the past few years. Right now they have 29. Last year they had 31.

I know every school over-signs sometimes because they can tell when a couple kids won't be eligible, but 10 extra recruits over the past two classes? How is that possible?
Posted by NorthGAVol
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:47 am to
Butch has been processing the frick out of Dooley's slaw.

We also had 2 blueshirts (Bruce and Perry) so technically, VOLS only signed 27.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Butch has been processing the frick out of Dooley's slaw.

We also had 2 blueshirts (Bruce and Perry) so technically, VOLS only signed 27.


Yep.

Next class is going to be small too. I've seen anywhere from 18-20 total.
Posted by Tooncesridesagain
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:48 am to
What the hell is a blue shirt?
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:48 am to
And we have a few straight up walkons as well. Like Ethan Wolfe's little brother Eli and Jancek's kid.
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:49 am to
Blue shirt is a preferred walkon that automatically gets granted a scholly in the fall.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:50 am to
I don't understand how they get over the hard 25 by that much 2 years straight, but good on Butch for figuring it out.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:50 am to
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What the hell is a blue shirt?


Basically as long as you're not formally recruited (meaning you don't take an OV) you can blue shirt. A blue shirt is when you arrive on campus and whoa you just happen to be great so here's your scholly - boom you count toward a different class.

It's basically a preferred walkon but that technically doesn't exist under NCAA rules.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 10:52 am
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:52 am to
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I don't understand how they get over the hard 25 by that much 2 years straight, but good on Butch for figuring it out.


We had former UT Coach Bill Battle (now Bama AD) fax us Saban's book on processing. Butch added a few calculations to it and improved it and boom.
Posted by Less Cowbell
Powder Springs, GA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:53 am to
It's of his brick by brick approach.

Sign as many as possible, sketchy stuff happens, players leave/transfer.
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:53 am to
quote:

I don't understand how they get over the hard 25 by that much 2 years straight, but good on Butch for figuring it out.


We back counted 6 last year from the EE's to past classes.

This year we are forward counting 4, but as of now only 2 players have been officially announced as Blue-Shirts (Bruce and Perry).

Blue Shirts can't take an Official Visit, they can't have in home meetings with coaches or in school.

They are free to sign anywhere they want and flip from TN up until the day they arrive on campus on August 1st. once they sign up they immediately go on scholarship and are counted as an counter towards the 25 for 2016 class.

Hope that clears it up.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 10:54 am
Posted by NorthGAVol
Member since Sep 2011
8939 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:53 am to
quote:

What the hell is a blue shirt?


Kid doesn't sign a LOI on signing day. Basically, just shows up on the first day of school and enrolls then is subsequently put on scholarship that day.

They're free to sign anywhere else in between though so you don't see it often because it's quite risky.
Posted by Tooncesridesagain
Member since Jan 2015
615 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:53 am to
quote:

It's basically a preferred walkon but that technically doesn't exist under NCAA rules.



Thanks. I imagine many of these coaches and compliance office people would make great tax attorneys or CPAs with they way they can bend the numbers and rules juuuust a little bit.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:53 am to
Isn't that a grey shirt?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:55 am to
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of his brick by brick approach.

Sign as many as possible, sketchy stuff happens, players leave/transfer.






Keep melting bitch, your tears are delicious
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:56 am to
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Isn't that a grey shirt?


GS's don't show up on campus till Jan 2016 like an EE.

BS's get to come on campus and be on scholarship and on the team this fall.

BIG Difference.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:57 am to
No a gray shirt is when you pay your own way for year and then get put on scholly the next year. With a gray shirt you can either enroll in school or wait. Most enroll and pay their own way for a year.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30588 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:58 am to
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I don't understand how they get over the hard 25 by that much 2 years straight, but good on Butch for figuring it out.
When Saban does it, he's a POS, but when Butch does it, "good for" him...envy and jealousy are pathetic characteristics, don't you think?
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Thanks. I imagine many of these coaches and compliance office people would make great tax attorneys or CPAs with they way they can bend the numbers and rules juuuust a little bit.


They'd make fantastic bankers and money launderers - that's for sure.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 11:03 am
Posted by UT2012
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Member since Sep 2009
188 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 11:04 am to
quote:

Butch has been processing the frick out of Dooley's slaw.

We also had 2 blueshirts (Bruce and Perry) so technically, VOLS only signed 27.


I bet we end up with 23 or 24 next year too. Butch can't help himself.
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