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re: Saban signs an "IOU" for a recruit...finds the recruit a job (Update) Coach Mad
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:13 pm to WDE24
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:13 pm to WDE24
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If Saban holds true ot his word, then he will commit a few NCAA violations.
Saban didn't promise any fricking 3 star recruit he will get him a job. This is a seasoned head coach, not an idiot. This whole article reeks of a kid trying to save his own swag at his high school after Saban tells him we don't have room and no one else wants him.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:15 pm to tigerskin
How's he doing now? Getting any snaps?
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:17 pm to NYCAuburn
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Why couldnt he just redshirt or be the 4th or 5th string then
Look the kid got processed, something Auburn, LSU, Tennessee, and now even Vandy are openly doing.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:20 pm to Irons Puppet
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Saban culls his roster, if you do not work out , he cuts you. That is why he has the biggest advantage in College Football. If you oversign 5 players per year and cut to make room for them, that reduces your odds of making a poor evaluations by 20% per class. Teams like Ole Miss oversign due to grades, Alabama oversigns to increase the
This is why the Big 10 is raising hell over this issue. Six in a row does not help matters.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:22 pm to Irons Puppet
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This is why the Big 10 is raising hell over this issue
They're going to shut their mouths when they realize that the two premier programs in the conference will both oversign this year.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:23 pm to TreyAnastasio
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13.2.3.3 After Completion of Senior Year. An institution may arrange for employment or employ any prospective
student-athlete (regardless of athletics award winner status), provided the employment does not begin
prior to the completion of the prospective student-athlete’s senior year in high school. (See Bylaw 13.12.1.5.1.)
Hang on a second. I do not think you guys are understanding or interpretting this correctly. I need a little more context here, but this bylaw appears to pertain to employment at the institution.
In other words, a school (institution), may arrange for the prospective student athlete to be employed at the institution after completion of a senior year.
I believe this is talking about employment at the institution itself. Again, I need more info as to the context (like preceeding or subsequent bylaws in this section), but it makes no sense that an institution can just go around arranging employment where ever they want for the student athletes. If so, Trent would likely be employed two hours a week at a shell corporation formed by some bama boosters in a tax haven getting paid $1k per hour to jerk off or some shite.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:24 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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but this bylaw appears to pertain to employment at the institution.
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An institution may arrange for employment or employ
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:24 pm to Monticello
Who has Auburn processed? I hope we haven't been processing anybody because we haven't had a full load of players in a while now.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:26 pm to TiggerWoods
Auburn players process themselves.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:26 pm to Irons Puppet
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Saban culls his roster, if you do not work out , he cuts you.
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Alabama oversigns to increase the selection pool.
Birds fly and the Pope is Catholic. As Les Miles would say "this is big boy football."
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:27 pm to TreyAnastasio
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but this bylaw appears to pertain to employment at the institution.
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I see the or. However, this is saying they may arrange for employment after completion of senior year of high school. You have to arrange for employment prior to actually employing. There would be a gap between hs graduation and starting the job. Therefore, offer, acceptance, "arrange for employment".
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:28 pm to TiggerWoods
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Who has Auburn processed? I hope we haven't been processing anybody because we haven't had a full load of players in a while now.
AU hasn't proccessed a single player.
Gumps are dumb.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:29 pm to Irons Puppet
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This is why the Big 10 is raising hell over this issue
The Big 10 will just have to deal with it because they allow more signees than the SEC does. This guy isn't going to sign so they can't really bitch about "over signing". He will count against the limit whenever he signs the LOI. If they don't like that kids will wait their turn to play in the SEC then they just need to get better and stop whining about it.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:30 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:30 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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AU hasn't proccessed a single player.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:31 pm to Monticello
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Look the kid got processed, something Auburn, LSU, Tennessee, and now even Vandy are openly doing
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Monticello
I don't like the fact that the kid was promised a scholly, then was told he didn't have one even though he had been committed for a year...but that happens. The job thing? It was pretty ambiguous...I doubt very seriously Saban promised to help him get a job. But since you said it, please tell me what Auburn players have been processed, openly or otherwise? Mind you, I don't think we've been at the scholarship limit in about 7 years
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:32 pm to TreyAnastasio
Just as I thought...
So a school may employ the prospective student athlete in any department (this implies within the institution itslf) and no member of the coaching staff can influence it in any way.
So, yes, violation and gumps are still dumb.
Not that anything will come of it, because as said earlier saban isn't putting shite in writing.
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13.2.3.2 Prior to Completion of Senior Year—Athletics Award Winners. An institution may employ
a prospective student-athlete who is an athletics award winner in any department outside of intercollegiate athletics,
provided the employment is arranged through normal institutional employment procedures (e.g., local
newspaper, bulletin board listings) and without the intervention of any member of the institution’s coaching
staff.
So a school may employ the prospective student athlete in any department (this implies within the institution itslf) and no member of the coaching staff can influence it in any way.
So, yes, violation and gumps are still dumb.
Not that anything will come of it, because as said earlier saban isn't putting shite in writing.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:35 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Yeah, every bit of that bylaw is referring to employment within the institution itself and there are provisions for wages commensurate with work being performed.
The bylaw is simply in place to prevent abuse whereby a student-athlete gets a position within the athletic department itself where rules (and pay) could be abused as an extra benefit for the athlete.
The bylaw is simply in place to prevent abuse whereby a student-athlete gets a position within the athletic department itself where rules (and pay) could be abused as an extra benefit for the athlete.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 12:36 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Did you miss the part about "Prior to Completion of Senior Year"?
Is the kid moving from Georgia to work at Alabama in the next few months?
Is the kid moving from Georgia to work at Alabama in the next few months?
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