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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:21 am to djsdawg
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The future is bright it this 95 average is our new norm.
It won't be a 95 average come February.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:27 am to Sandwich
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Nope
Glad to make a friendly wager. Our staff feels very good about Dean. We are very thin at ILB, Dean could come in and start next to Moses day 1. Bama has an insane recent track record of getting tons LB's drafted and drafted high. We have a great engineering program that he absolutely loves. He's spent a ton of time in Tuscaloosa, was just there last weekend, and is coming back this weekend. Bet against Saban on this one at your own risk. I like our odds, to say the least.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:36 am to tider04
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won't be a 95 average come February.
So you talked about what we are seeing, but when I point out how great it looks, you switch to what you think is going to happen. You need to make up your mind.
As for dean, you listed everything that makes uga feel good about dean too.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 9:41 am
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:46 am to djsdawg
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So you talked about what we are seeing, but when I point out how great it looks, you switch to what you think is going to happen. You need to make up your mind.
Look, I'm not saying UGA sucks at recruiting now. Clearly Smart signed the #3 and #1 classes the last two cycles. This class will likely be in the 3-5 range as well, according to dawg fans I've read that project this sort of stuff. Nobody is saying this class will suck. By saying I think this class will be more the norm for UGA, I mean that this class is currently ranked as the #6 class in the composite rankings and is about half full. UGA is missing on alot of the top 15 players instate this year to teams like AU, Bama and OSU. This class will likely finish top 3-5, but not #1 again. That is what I mean by this class will be more the norm moving forward for UGA than last year's epic, #1 class. I could be wrong, time will tell.
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As for dean, you listed everything that makes uga feel good about dean too.
There are some differences. UGA can't compete with the volume of LB's Bama is putting into the league. Roquon was a freak, but Bama puts LB's in the 1st and 2nd round every single year. And Dean has been to Tuscaloosa more often, it's closer to home, etc. Bama definitely has some advantages, even when looking at the depth chart. Kirby may win this battle, but my money is on the GOAT.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 9:48 am
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:45 am to tider04
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UGA can't compete with the volume of LB's Bama is putting into the league.
Maybe, but UGA’s current coach played a big part in that volume and has been successful going head to head against Saban more than a few times in the last few years.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:47 am to tider04
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It won't be a 95 average come February
Maybe like 93 or 94, which is competitive with anyone
Posted on 6/19/18 at 12:04 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Maybe like 93 or 94, which is competitive with anyone
Even if all we did was *average* 90 ratings for the next 10 commits, we'd still be sitting over a 92.5 avg recruit with the current commits... or in other words... a top tier class in nearly any season.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 1:02 pm to tider04
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UGA is missing on alot of the top 15 players
I wouldn't say that. The only two who we seem to have whiffed on that we really wanted were Pappoe and Booth.
Plus, around this time last year Fields was committed to PSU, Cox was committed to OSU, Anderson was committed to LSU, and I'm pretty sure Walker was committed to Bama.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 1:16 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Plus, around this time last year Fields was committed to PSU, Cox was committed to OSU, Anderson was committed to LSU, and I'm pretty sure Walker was committed to Bama.
Yep, the fat lady ain’t sung yet.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 1:27 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Maybe, but UGA’s current coach played a big part in that volume and has been successful going head to head against Saban more than a few times in the last few years.
I'm sure that's how Kirby's spins it to recruits, but the truth of the matter is Alabama has signed and developed elite LB's before Kirby was the DC and since he left. The secret sauce in Tuscaloosa is Nick Saban, not Kirby Smart. Smart recruits know this. That's not a guarantee that Dean signs with Bama, but he's a smart kid. He knows which coach has an unmatchable record pf putting guys in the NFL and winning national titles and which guy is still trying to get there.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 1:47 pm to tider04
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The secret sauce in Tuscaloosa is Nick Saban, not Kirby Smart
Unless I’m mistaken, every single drafted LB that Nick Saban has had at Alabama has been coached by Kirby Smart at one point. Then Smart went to Georgia, Roquan Smith went top 10. No ILB is going to be the least bit concerned about pro development at Georgia. If they’ve got the goods, they’ll make it.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 1:49 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Unless I’m mistaken, every single drafted LB that Nick Saban has had at Alabama has been coached by Kirby Smart at one point.
Sssshhhh... don't bring facts in here. It's emotions only.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 2:00 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Unless I’m mistaken, every single drafted LB that Nick Saban has had at Alabama has been coached by Kirby Smart at one point. Then Smart went to Georgia, Roquan Smith went top 10. No ILB is going to be the least bit concerned about pro development at Georgia. If they’ve got the goods, they’ll make it.
You are mistaken. Kirby coached in our secondary when Rolo McClain was roaming the field killing people. Even when he moved to LB's, he only coached the ILB's. We have a ton of OLB's drafted that he had nothing to do with in terms of development. He also has not coached any of our young LB's that are rising stars like Mac Wilson, Dylan Moses and Terrel Lewis. You dawg fans really crack me up trying to spin it as if the dynasty Saban has built in Tuscaloosa was somehow the doing of some scrub assistant that Saban made and mentored. Anything Kirby is today as a coach, he owes to Saban.
Dean can either play for the real deal, or a copy-cat of the real deal. Maybe he likes the fake version more? We'll see.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 6/19/18 at 2:05 pm to Crowknowsbest
Why the frick even have a discussion with this brat....there are a number of things wrong with “his opinion” ....this was a platform for him to belittle UGA and Smart and ...Gloat gloat gloat...
From all the mouth diarrhea i Pieced together I dare say that the truth is he/she/it might hold a glimmer of fear or respect for our team...either one works
Carry on
From all the mouth diarrhea i Pieced together I dare say that the truth is he/she/it might hold a glimmer of fear or respect for our team...either one works
Carry on
Posted on 6/19/18 at 2:06 pm to tider04
You should get nicks dick out of your mouth long enough to realize it taste like your arse :)
Posted on 6/19/18 at 2:10 pm to redandblackattack
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Why the frick even have a discussion with this brat....there are a number of things wrong with “his opinion” ....this was a platform for him to belittle UGA and Smart and ...Gloat gloat gloat...
From all the mouth diarrhea i Pieced together I dare say that the truth is he/she/it might hold a glimmer of fear or respect for our team...either one works
Carry on
For the record, I didn't start this thread. I answered the OP's question with what I think is happening with UGA's recruiting this year. I follow UGA closely because I married into a UGA family that lives in Athens, have been season ticket holders for 60 years, etc. My opinion on the matter is no more or less valid than yours or anyone elses. We are all just fans speculating on this stuff, which is what makes it fun until someone gets their panties in a wad about it.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 2:11 pm to redandblackattack
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You should get nicks dick out of your mouth long enough to realize it taste like your arse :)
You should really cut back on your gay porn intake. It's starting to affect you in unbecoming ways.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 2:16 pm to tider04
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Kirby coached in our secondary when Rolo McClain was roaming the field killing people. Even when he moved to LB's, he only coached the ILB's. We have a ton of OLB's drafted that he had nothing to do with in terms of development.
Right, he was only the defensive coordinator. My bad.
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He also has not coached any of our young LB's that are rising stars like Mac Wilson, Dylan Moses and Terrel Lewis.
Nick Saban hasn’t coached Roquan Smith, Lorenzo Carter or any of Georgia’s other young guys.
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You dawg fans really crack me up trying to spin it as if the dynasty Saban has built in Tuscaloosa was somehow the doing of some scrub assistant that Saban made and mentored.
Not doing that at all. That’s just you being insecure.
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Anything Kirby is today as a coach, he owes to Saban.
I’m sure he learned nothing from Bobby Bowden, Mark Richt, or his own father. It was all 100% Saban. Nevermind his own talent as a coach.
(Before you get your panties in a wad, I am not discounting the influence of Nick Saban on Kirby Smart. There are other influences though.)
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Dean can either play for the real deal, or a copy-cat of the real deal. Maybe he likes the fake version more? We'll see.
I know it seems crazy, but there are lots of reasons to choose one school vs. another. One school having a legend coaching it isn’t the deciding factor for everyone.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 2:22 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Right, he was only the defensive coordinator. My bad.
He wasn't the DC in 2007, 2016 or 2017. That's roughly 30% of Saban's Alabama tenure that Kirby was not the DC. Our defense was the nastiest and most aggressive the last 2 years under Pruitt, quite frankly. 2011 would be the exception.
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Nick Saban hasn’t coached Roquan Smith, Lorenzo Carter or any of Georgia’s other young guys.
Straw man. Nobody made that claim. You did make the reverse claim.
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I know it seems crazy, but there are lots of reasons to choose one school vs. another. One school having a legend coaching it isn’t the deciding factor for everyone.
Agreed. Which is why Dean could end up at UGA. I just don't think he will when it's all said and done.
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