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Miami Billionaire head NIL booster states mass de-commits and Portal entries…
Posted on 12/17/22 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 12/17/22 at 4:34 pm

This guy legit or is he just pissing in the wind trying to UM seem relevant?
The TN and Fla statements surprised me
Posted on 12/17/22 at 4:51 pm to cajuntiger1010
Hard to believe with a sleazeball like that guy
Posted on 12/17/22 at 4:54 pm to cajuntiger1010
The Miami NIL lead guy shite talking other universities over NIL deals.
Gee who saw that coming?
Gee who saw that coming?
Posted on 12/17/22 at 5:07 pm to cajuntiger1010
I am honestly confused right now. I have never been one to defend Florida, Tennessee, and certainly not Ohio State or Texas A&M but good god. The absolute nerve for a MiAMi booster to even post this. Most of the teams listed are in a MUCH better position than The U, with a coach who’s among the highest paid, nationally and finished with five wins in a severely weakened ACC. Recruits are ALWAYS going to commit to Columbus. Texas A&M has had top ten recruiting classes for a decade now and has kept a chunk of their “historic” class, for the time being, Florida will always have a national brand, and Tennessee is on the upswing with a coach that I’m sure PLENTY of offensive players would want to play for.
Miami has been an absolute joke since LSU clobbered them in 2005. “Poor performance” as if Tennessee isn’t a top ten team and Florida is actually in a bowl game. Hell, didn’t A&M beat them this season? Miami will lose the majority of those highly coveted recruits in the next season or two. Many will be underdeveloped, with lacking fanbase support, underwhelming record, and stuck in a conference where it’s best commodity (Clemson) would want out. Hell, LSU plays Florida State to open next season, that’ll be a team that’s well constructed and coached, how about Miami and it’s joke of a program and boosters attempt to reach Seminole status before spewing nonsense.
Miami has been an absolute joke since LSU clobbered them in 2005. “Poor performance” as if Tennessee isn’t a top ten team and Florida is actually in a bowl game. Hell, didn’t A&M beat them this season? Miami will lose the majority of those highly coveted recruits in the next season or two. Many will be underdeveloped, with lacking fanbase support, underwhelming record, and stuck in a conference where it’s best commodity (Clemson) would want out. Hell, LSU plays Florida State to open next season, that’ll be a team that’s well constructed and coached, how about Miami and it’s joke of a program and boosters attempt to reach Seminole status before spewing nonsense.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 7:27 pm to NJLSU
You are missing his point. He is not talking about performance on the field or current state of the program. He is talking about the NIL deals being promised at these schools he mentioned are not living up to what was promised. That they are not structured like the way they are being sold.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:05 pm to TideWarrior
Understand what you’re saying there brother, however it sounded from his wording that it’s based on poor performance or issues relating to NIL or combination of both. Could have simply escaped me nonetheless, just how it seemed to be written when I read through
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:21 pm to NJLSU
I think the poor performance related to a&m and UF. But I have heard programs are selling recruits about there collective/NIL deals that are worth millions but yet not explaining it to the recruits/transfers that it is distributive among the many. Some think it applies to them when in essence they are getting very little of the pie once they arrive on campus.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:28 pm to TideWarrior
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Some think it applies to them when in essence they are getting very little of the pie once they arrive on campus.
Can recruits or current college players have agents to represent them in NIL deals? Or is that still against NCAA policy?
Posted on 12/17/22 at 10:41 pm to TideWarrior
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they are not structured like the way they are being sold.
And now it’s time for the kids to learn some life lessons about the free market economy. It goes both ways.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 11:49 pm to StringedInstruments
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Can recruits or current college players have agents to represent them in NIL deals? Or is that still against NCAA policy?
Yes this lawyer/booster has set up a small side firm to represent them. Like many others are doing as well. I believe some states may vary how it is handled.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 11:50 pm to BevoBucks
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And now it’s time for the kids to learn some life lessons about the free market economy. It goes both ways.
I have heard some reports where kids did not have representation and totally screwed themselves.
One of the things Saban and other coaches are advocating for is the NCAA to set guidelines for how representation happens. I have seen the push for agents have to register with the NCAA like in the NFL.
Posted on 12/18/22 at 3:16 am to TideWarrior
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You are missing his point. He is not talking about performance on the field or current state of the program. He is talking about the NIL deals being promised at these schools he mentioned are not living up to what was promised. That they are not structured like the way they are being sold.
I have heard (not saying it's true) that some NIL deals are structured so the NIL agreement (and payments) are split up into renewable periods. A player that didn't meet expectations might suddenly start missing his monthly payments, and find out his NIL agreement had not been renewed. When he was sold on the NIL, he may have been told what the value of his NIL was for a year, but it was not stressed that the figure was dependent on his agreement being continually renewed.
Posted on 12/18/22 at 6:33 am to cajuntiger1010
Ohio state’s nil program is a joke.
I don’t think we’re offering or promising things and then not delivering - we’re just not offering much at all.
This is a huge cultural divide. I mean, let’s be honest - the Sec has been doing this kind of thing illicitly for years. NIL - even though it’s more money and somewhat more transparent - is not a giant shift.
Believe it or not, The big ten and Ohio state have always been small potatoes compared to the SEC in terms of the booster culture and paying players. Sure, the hundred dollar handshakes and loaner cars shite happens, but not flat out bidding for players.
Culturally a lot of Ohio state fans don’t want to shell out money for high schoolers who haven’t earned anything. Players on the team who are proven have certainly gotten paid. But I don’t think the money is there to fund a recruiting slush fund for buying high school talent. At least not yet. However, I will say hysteria is on the rise. but that could also just be the death throes of a program realizing it is basically just a regional power anymore. Let’s wait and see how nutty Ohio state fans get after Georgia smokes them
I don’t think we’re offering or promising things and then not delivering - we’re just not offering much at all.
This is a huge cultural divide. I mean, let’s be honest - the Sec has been doing this kind of thing illicitly for years. NIL - even though it’s more money and somewhat more transparent - is not a giant shift.
Believe it or not, The big ten and Ohio state have always been small potatoes compared to the SEC in terms of the booster culture and paying players. Sure, the hundred dollar handshakes and loaner cars shite happens, but not flat out bidding for players.
Culturally a lot of Ohio state fans don’t want to shell out money for high schoolers who haven’t earned anything. Players on the team who are proven have certainly gotten paid. But I don’t think the money is there to fund a recruiting slush fund for buying high school talent. At least not yet. However, I will say hysteria is on the rise. but that could also just be the death throes of a program realizing it is basically just a regional power anymore. Let’s wait and see how nutty Ohio state fans get after Georgia smokes them
Posted on 12/18/22 at 8:37 am to escatawpabuckeye
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This is a huge cultural divide. I mean, let’s be honest - the Sec has been doing this kind of thing illicitly for years. NIL - even though it’s more money and somewhat more transparent - is not a giant shift.
So this is your justification for the B10 not being able to compete with the SEC over the decades.

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SEC in terms of the booster culture and paying players. Sure, the hundred dollar handshakes and loaner cars shite happens, but not flat out bidding for players.
Can you provide your stats for this?

Posted on 12/18/22 at 8:45 am to TideWarrior
Of course I can’t, and you know I can’t.
But if you think I’m wrong you haven’t been paying attention.
There have been plenty of talented kids leaving midwestern and northeastern states for the SEC schools and many of them don’t even get seriously recruited by local schools because most coaches already know what matters in these recruitments. We can all pretend everyone plays by the same rules but we don’t.
As your own slogan says - “it just means more.”
Well frankly, in terms of willingness to stake one’s own fortune on college football, it most certainly does.
I mean shite, look what is happening right now. Osu, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa etc have minimal to no presence in the NIL arena. This just isn’t a thing big ten schools were ready or wanting to do
But if you think I’m wrong you haven’t been paying attention.
There have been plenty of talented kids leaving midwestern and northeastern states for the SEC schools and many of them don’t even get seriously recruited by local schools because most coaches already know what matters in these recruitments. We can all pretend everyone plays by the same rules but we don’t.
As your own slogan says - “it just means more.”
Well frankly, in terms of willingness to stake one’s own fortune on college football, it most certainly does.
I mean shite, look what is happening right now. Osu, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa etc have minimal to no presence in the NIL arena. This just isn’t a thing big ten schools were ready or wanting to do
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Posted on 12/18/22 at 9:32 am to TideWarrior
Insane how fast this is all moving but that makes sense as to what Nick is advocating for. Some folk took his initial comments regarding it as sour grapes, which wasn’t the case, and now the man is likely going to have a top 3 all time recruiting class should all those trending, commit, next week.
Posted on 12/18/22 at 9:43 am to escatawpabuckeye
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There have been plenty of talented kids leaving midwestern and northeastern states for the SEC schools
So maybe nicer weather annually, better states to move to like the rest of your population continues to do, and not worrying about which factory will close down next might not have something to do with kids leaving the desolate tundra of the rust belt.
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local schools because most coaches already know what matters in these recruitments.
UA only pulls maybe 1 or 2 kids out of the NE or Midwest each recruiting cycle. Maybe you should follow recruiting a little better. Each year the areas you are referencing maybe at best provide 10% of the top talent. You are talking about 20% country that currently represents less than 10% of the top talent.
So your analogy of the top players not staying home has more to do with the talent is actually not there.
Posted on 12/18/22 at 9:50 am to TideWarrior
I can name dozens of kids over the past 15 years - not even involving UA - who left the Midwest that I have heard one thing or another. Some undoubtedly choose to leave for better weather, family connections etc but many took money that wasn’t available at local schools. Laquon treadwell, d’andre swift, Clifton Garrett, and on and on.
Look, this isnt even an indictment. I couldn’t care less that the kids and their families are getting a taste. My only point is that the culture and infrastructure to quickly adopt the new reality of NIL doesn’t exist in the Midwest. It just doesn’t.
I think what you’ll see is the big ten quickly adopt revenue sharing with the players from their more lucrative TV deal. This is something that our alums and university presidents/faculty councils will be much more comfortable with
Look, this isnt even an indictment. I couldn’t care less that the kids and their families are getting a taste. My only point is that the culture and infrastructure to quickly adopt the new reality of NIL doesn’t exist in the Midwest. It just doesn’t.
I think what you’ll see is the big ten quickly adopt revenue sharing with the players from their more lucrative TV deal. This is something that our alums and university presidents/faculty councils will be much more comfortable with
Posted on 12/18/22 at 10:06 am to escatawpabuckeye
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I have heard one thing or another
Got to love message boards. If there was any legitimate evidence to this no school in the B10 would not hesitate to report it.
This seems to be the #1 excuse for all fanbases who have fans that fail to accept someone just did not want to go to their school.
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I think what you’ll see is the big ten quickly adopt revenue sharing with the players from their more lucrative TV deal. This is something that our alums and university presidents/faculty councils will be much more comfortable with
Every conference is saying this will happen not like the B10 is leading the charge. The conference is behind the curve right now and trying to become a player in the main game. I understand the B10 created a big media package recently with the hopes this will happen so they can buy more players to play in the mid west.
I also understand why it may be supported more in the rust belt because of the union backing of it. Union membership and power is declining across the country. Most of the economic hardship felt in the rust belt is because of the union yet the B10 is pushing for them right back in because they want to compete for recruits.
Remember the only way to get revenue sharing is the players get paid and are recognized as employees, which will allow the union to get involved especially in the B10 union states.
Posted on 12/18/22 at 10:08 am to TideWarrior
And it’s happening - see NLRB decision re: USC players just this week.
The big ten will push for more rules and transparency in the form of contracts and bargaining.
It’ll be the NFL with collegiate brands
The big ten will push for more rules and transparency in the form of contracts and bargaining.
It’ll be the NFL with collegiate brands
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