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re: KJ Bolden - get your bets in now - UGA, AU, FSU or BAMA (commiting on Saturday at 7pm)
Posted on 8/11/23 at 2:58 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Posted on 8/11/23 at 2:58 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Thank you! That was all I was asking for!
I will concede that it is close... as I expected. By no means is the UGA staff "much better" at development than others. There's nothing special in the water in Athens...
I'm using the HF OM years when he was a head coach in the SEC for apples-to-apples rather than Liberty where he had subpar facilities to develop etc., even though that puts him at a disadvantage of fewer years than Kirby's time at UGA.
Have to drop these...
Javon Kinlaw-1st round 4* ESPN
Jordan Davis-1st round 4* Rivals+ESPN
Jaycee Horn-1st round 4* ESPN+Rivals
UGA
1 Rashad Fenton Boom
2 DJ Wonnum Boom
3 TJ Brunson Boom
4 Ernest Jones Boom
5 Israel Mukuamu Boom
6 Chris Smith Boom
7 Eric Stokes-1st round UGA
8 Tae Crowder UGA
9 Deandre Baker-1st round UGA
AU
1 Terrel Bernard Ron R
2 Kei'Trel Clark Ron R
3 Daniel Thomas Ron R
4 Jalen Pitre Ron R
5 JT Woods Ron R
6 Will King Ron R
7 Durrell Johnson Ron R
8 Simeon Thomas Ron R
9 Tracy Walker Ron R
10 Harlan Miller Ron R
11 Senquez Golson Hugh-OM
12 Derrick Jones Hugh-OM
13 Marquis Haynes Hugh-OM
I will concede that it is close... as I expected. By no means is the UGA staff "much better" at development than others. There's nothing special in the water in Athens...
I'm using the HF OM years when he was a head coach in the SEC for apples-to-apples rather than Liberty where he had subpar facilities to develop etc., even though that puts him at a disadvantage of fewer years than Kirby's time at UGA.
Have to drop these...
Javon Kinlaw-1st round 4* ESPN
Jordan Davis-1st round 4* Rivals+ESPN
Jaycee Horn-1st round 4* ESPN+Rivals
UGA
1 Rashad Fenton Boom
2 DJ Wonnum Boom
3 TJ Brunson Boom
4 Ernest Jones Boom
5 Israel Mukuamu Boom
6 Chris Smith Boom
7 Eric Stokes-1st round UGA
8 Tae Crowder UGA
9 Deandre Baker-1st round UGA
AU
1 Terrel Bernard Ron R
2 Kei'Trel Clark Ron R
3 Daniel Thomas Ron R
4 Jalen Pitre Ron R
5 JT Woods Ron R
6 Will King Ron R
7 Durrell Johnson Ron R
8 Simeon Thomas Ron R
9 Tracy Walker Ron R
10 Harlan Miller Ron R
11 Senquez Golson Hugh-OM
12 Derrick Jones Hugh-OM
13 Marquis Haynes Hugh-OM
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 3:13 pm
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Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:13 pm to GruntAu
quote:He was not a 3*... you are correct to be suspicious. I looked into his list.
I don’t know about all of them but Jordan Davis wasn’t a 3*. Which makes me suspicious of your list
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:17 pm to ALhunter
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.. as I expected. By no means is the UGA staff "much better" at development than others. There's nothing special in the water in Athens...
Developing them into multiple 1st rounders is more special than none
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I'm using the HF OM years when he was a head coach in the SEC for apples-to-apples rather than Liberty where he had subpar facilities to develop etc.
So you end 4 years farther back than my data
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Have to drop these... Javon Kinlaw-1st round 4* ESPN Jordan Davis-1st round 4* Rivals+ESPN Jaycee Horn-1st round 4* ESPN+Rivals
247 composite is the standard on this board. Using ESPN is bush leagu but you do you. I’m done. You just keep trying to move the goalposts. Burden of proof was on me so I set the posts that you keep trying to change to prove a false narrative.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:32 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:Yes, you've been thoroughly proven incorrect which is fine.
I’m done.
As a reasonable person, I'll openly admit it was actually very similar/close between the staffs and player development between the two schools is comparable.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 8/11/23 at 4:25 pm to ALhunter
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Yes, you've been thoroughly proven incorrect which is fine. As a reasonable person, I'll openly admit it was actually very similar/close between the staffs and player development between the two schools is comparable.
Take your trolling and shite talk to the rant where it belongs.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 5:08 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
YOU couldn't help yourself but to talk shite about Auburn, and say that UGA has better player development "by a wide margin". Don't play the victim now.
When confronted you kept at it and still are.
When confronted you kept at it and still are.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:53 pm to ALhunter
Posted on 8/12/23 at 2:24 am to ALhunter
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This is delusion
this is just stupid. Read it again.........
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UGA not only gets the high ranked players
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UGA also coaches them up while also developing lower ranked player
Both can be true. They are not mutually exclusive concepts like you are trying to make them.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 2:27 am to ALhunter
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Saying UGA is some top talent developer is nonsense.
We DO do a very good job of developing our talent, which includes Many of our 3 stars.
Let’s see you explain otherwise.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 11:00 am to djsdawg
quote:Got no problem with this statement. Most of the SEC does a good job developing talent. That's much different than talking shite about another team for no reason.
We DO do a very good job of developing our talent, which includes Many of our 3 stars.
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I’ve said UGA’s staff develops defensive talent better than AU’s and you continue to try and deflect.
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I said UGA is better at developing defensive talent than AU’s current staff. Which they are by a wide margin
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If you go to GA and excel, it’s guaranteed your are going higher than if you did that at Auburn or non-Bama
This type of low class shite talking is what I take issue with. It has no place on this board, and beyond that, it was disproven by data that I went and pulled.
On Jordan Davis - he's a 3* 1 out of 3 services that ranked him and most had him at 4*. I could go back and add players to the AU side as well that had a single 3* but it doesn't really matter. Point stands that per the data UGA isn't some special "development space" that magically turns 3* recruits into NFL studs at a faster clip than other programs.
Industry Comparison Jordan Davis
ESPN 4*
Rivals.com 4*
247 3*
This post was edited on 8/12/23 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:38 pm to TrussvilleTide
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But muh “Kirby personally recruited him for 4 years”
Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:49 pm to ALhunter
Love me a good ole Auburn/Jawja tussle . . .
Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:58 pm to ALhunter
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UGA isn't some special "development space" that magically turns 3* recruits into NFL studs at a faster clip than other programs.
I mean you’re just wrong. Especially in the secondary
Notable 247 composite 3-stars or lower under Kirby:
Javon Bullard (2023 All-American)
Tykee Smith (2023 All-SEC)
Ladd McConkey (Projected 3rd rd pick)
Kenny McIntosh (6th round pick)
Stetson Bennett (4th round pick)
Chris Smith (5th round pick)
Jordan Davis (1st round pick)
Justin Shaffer (6th round pick)
Eric Stokes (1st round pick)
Monty Rice (3rd round pick)
Tae Crowder (7th round pick)
Deandre Baker (1st round pick)
Solomon Kindley (4th round pick)
Now post all of Auburn/Hugh Freeze since 2016
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 12/20/23 at 1:01 pm to diddlydawg7
quote:You're extremely late to this discussion and we already dug into all of the numbers, which are available in the thread.
I mean you’re just wrong. Especially in the secondary
Congrats on getting KJ
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:40 pm to ALhunter
you tried I guess, so that's something to keep your chin up about
congrats on the gator flips
congrats on the gator flips
Posted on 12/20/23 at 6:15 pm to DawgCountry
quote:Thanks.
you tried I guess, so that's something to keep your chin up about
congrats on the gator flips
Yep - once I saw the QB flip to Nebraska, and the 5* DBs leaving UGA, it was clear GA would come in with an unreal bag. Would have been a nice depth piece but we usually don't target the kind of kids that just want to go to the highest bidder and are prioritizing receivers this cycle.
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