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re: How did Kirby start pulling 5 stars year two at UGA?
Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:40 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:40 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
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His class jumped to #2 his second year and really hasn’t fallen since. What is different that Brian Kelly is not doing at LSU other than NIL.
1) Kirby learned from one of the best in Saban
2) Kirby being an alumni definitely helps in selling the school
3) Kirby surrounds himself with EXCELLENT recruiters for the most part.
4) UGA is a great academic school compared to other SEC schools except for UF, Sandy, and A&M.
5) Having good in state recruits helps, but Kirby recruits nationally. A lot of the Georgia talent gets poached by AU, UA, UT, USCe, FSU.
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:55 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
Everything that was already mentioned plus the fact that there were full blown coaching shitshows at Florida, Tennessee and South Carolina by the time he was in year 2.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 3:51 pm to tissle
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4) UGA is a great academic school compared to other SEC schools except for UF, Sandy, and A&M.
There are select programs that are highly regarded at every SEC school, but in general unless you go to Vandy they aren't drastically different.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:15 pm to mdomingue
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Georgia was coming off back-to-back 10-win seasons when Kirby took over finishing 2nd in the east those two seasons and Kirby's first. LSU was 6-6 & 6-7 with a very depleted roster though they did overperform year 1 under Kelly.
Georgia and Florida produce a ton of talent, significantly more than Louisiana in terms of numbers, not per capita.
And maybe Kirby or his staff is just better than Kelly and his staff? Also, we can't really do a fair comparison now with accounting for relative NIL money available to players (not that I really could anyway).
Wait a minute now. Ed Orgeron won a championship, and he got the boot after two bad seasons. It starts with the AD to make sure you get the right coach that would keep on winning championship. Kelly isn't going to win championship at LSU.
Posted on 9/9/23 at 7:56 am to bayou85
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He even took a picture of Bama's recruiting board to show recruits that were lower to gain favor.
No he didn’t. This is some message board bs that came out right around the 2017 national championship game.
Posted on 9/9/23 at 8:40 am to LSUTIGERS8181
It's the same answer you get for standouts in every single industry. He works harder at it than anyone else
Posted on 9/9/23 at 10:32 am to bayou85
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He had relationships with a lot of them from Bama recruiting. He even took a picture of Bama's recruiting board to show recruits that were lower to gain favor.
Boss move here.
Posted on 9/9/23 at 8:12 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
How did this get this many upvotes. The majority of the 5 stars are defensive guys.
UGA is not racking up 5 stars at the skill position. Kelly is an older Richt.
UGA is not racking up 5 stars at the skill position. Kelly is an older Richt.
Posted on 9/10/23 at 2:29 am to LSUTIGERS8181
“NIL Money”
Posted on 9/10/23 at 5:32 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
apparently recruits these days like coaches with bowl cuts. Yall making fun of him this whole time and didnt know 
Posted on 9/10/23 at 8:00 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
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What is different that Brian Kelly is not doing at LSU other than NIL.
Well, hes not grinding on recruits
Posted on 9/10/23 at 8:27 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
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His class jumped to #2 his second year and really hasn’t fallen since. What is different that Brian Kelly is not doing at LSU other than NIL.
Kirby Smart is the best recruiter in the nation and that started in Tuscaloosa. He was beating Richt, Bobo and company on the trail at every opportunity. He’s him
Posted on 9/11/23 at 6:43 am to LSUTIGERS8181
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His class jumped to #2 his second year and really hasn’t fallen since. What is different that Brian Kelly is not doing at LSU other than NIL.
Assuming you are not trolling....
Kirby had a proven track record for recruiting when he came to Georgia. He recruits relentlessly. Whether LSU fans like it or not, he is a better recruiter than Kelly. That is not saying Kelly is a bad recruiter. Just that Kirby is a better recruiter.
Georgia was seen as an up and coming program. Kids like to be a part of an up and coming program. It's one reason you will see FSU have a big class. LSU had a couple of down years, but as a whole has been a very solid program.
Those would be my two guesses. I am interested to see what others say, as I did not read the thread before posting. I wanted to answer from my opinion and not be influenced by other peoples opinion.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 6:52 am to Tiger Tracker
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I'm not gonna sit here and try to convince anyone Kelly is as good or better than Smart at recruiting, but I have no clue what this is supposed to mean. You think because academic standards were higher at ND it made it EASIER for Kelly to get top 10 classes there?
To a degree, yes. The B1G has higher standards than most SEC schools and yet Ohio State and Michigan have highly ranked classes most years. Success, history academics all play a role.
quote:I don't think he meant Kelly had recruiting on cruise control, but ND is a Blue Blood, so recruiting to ND should not be more difficult. I think what he meant was that Kelly does not have an easy rapport with the young kids and it is more difficult for him to make a personal connection. That isn't a negative necessarily...just a fact that some people have an outgoing, easy personality. Maybe he struggles? I don't know. It's just a thought.
Could you clarify how higher admission standards allowed Kelly to put recruiting on cruise control and not get any "exposure" to it while at ND?
Posted on 9/11/23 at 6:56 am to bayou85
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He even took a picture of Bama's recruiting board to show recruits that were lower to gain favor.
So he had success by getting lower recruits?
This is an old wives tale repeated among Alabama fans that felt jilted by Kirby leaving. Kirby pretty much headed up Alabama recruiting and certainly did nto need to take a picture of their recruiting board to know how they were ranked.
I have asked Alabama fans many times to show a link saying that Kirby did that and still nothing. It is something their Aunt's next door neighbor's uncle 's cousin told somebody and it spread and seems to be accepted as fact, when just a few seconds of thought would make it obvious that it is untrue.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 3:39 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
Georgia high school football is tops in the nation. UGA is easy to recruit to, and they have the resources to make it happen. Kirby was a BIG part of bamas success and it shows.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 4:52 pm to DawgsLife
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Posted on 9/11/23 at 4:56 pm to DawgsLife
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I have asked Alabama fans many times to show a link saying that Kirby did that and still nothing. It is something their Aunt's next door neighbor's uncle 's cousin told somebody and it spread and seems to be accepted as fact, when just a few seconds of thought would make it obvious that it is untrue.
Since Kirby had a ton of input into Bama’s recruiting board, why would he need to take a picture of it? He could just tell the recruits where they ranked on the board - I mean, if they didn’t believe him they just wouldn’t sign with UGA anyway.
I know Bama has had crazy high ranked classes since Kirby left but they were much better when he was recruiting for the Tide - especially on the defensive side.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:35 pm to Long Dawg
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Since Kirby had a ton of input into Bama’s recruiting board, why would he need to take a picture of it? He could just tell the recruits where they ranked on the board - I mean, if they didn’t believe him they just wouldn’t sign with UGA anyway
Why are you bringing logic to this conversation? This entire thing was made up by some Bama fans to hate on Kirby.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 8:19 pm to Long Dawg
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Since Kirby had a ton of input into Bama’s recruiting board, why would he need to take a picture of it?
Exactly. But some faceless person on a message board said that happened so it must be true! This story is straight from a Walking Dead episode. It just keeps coming and coming and coming. It doesn't make sense. There is no proof. But here it comes again.
Alabama fans melt down over this story more than just about any loss they have suffered on the field.
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