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re: Class of 2014- Who will Own Georgia this year? Update- South Carolina Moving UP

Posted on 7/5/13 at 8:19 pm to
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 8:19 pm to
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Just destroyed your credibility of ranking recruiting services. The kids are ranked on a level of 1-100 by how well they play their position, not how valuable their position is or isn't at the next level. That's the way it should be and 24/7 absolutely does it the best.


I know that's how they do it, that's why it's fvcking moronic. Why the hell is that why it should be done? The only way that could be worthwile metric is if you established the assumption that all positions are equal which they of course are not.

Some cat who's the next Vonta Leach and is a 100 at FB should in no way shape or form be the top player in the country. Not to mention the fact that 24/7 extrapolates out to a professional level. Why would a college recruiting site care how a person adapts to the professional level?
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 8:20 pm to
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He never had any to begin with. All things Clemson are the best in his opinion.


There are plenty of Clemson guys I think are too high on 247, Kitt most notably.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 9:02 pm to
Just for fun, a composite ranking would look like the following:

1. Lorenzo Carter
2. Raekwon McMillan
3. Deshaun Watson - Clemson
4. Malkom Parrish - UGA
5. Nick Chubb - UGA
6. Elisha Shaw
7. Dontavius Russell - UGA
8. Kalvaraz Bessent - Bama
9. Korie Rogers - Clemson
10. Demarre Kitt - Clemson
11. Dante Sawyer - Auburn
12. Cortez McDowell - Auburn
13. Adam Choice - Clemson
14. Bryson Allen-Williams - USC
15. DJ Smith
16. Demarquis Gates - Ole Miss
17. Myles Autry
18. Nicholas Ruffin - Auburn
19. Andrew Williams
20. Milan Richard - Clemson
21. Stanley Williams
22. Wesley Green - USC
23. Kevin Mouhon
24. Nick Glass - UGA
25. Kendall Baker - UGA

Would reflect a team score of:

1A. Clemson - 6.5
1B. UGA - 6.5
3. Auburn - 3
4. USC - 2
5. Bama - 1.5
5. Ole Miss - 1
This post was edited on 7/5/13 at 10:34 pm
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48337 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 9:15 pm to
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1. Lorenzo Carter
2. Raekwon McMillan
3. Deshaun Watson - Clemson
4. Malkom Parrish - UGA
5. Nick Chubb - UGA
6. Elisha Shaw - UGA
7. Dontavius Russell - UGA
8. Kalvaraz Bessent - Bama
9. Korie Rogers - Clemson
10. Demarre Kitt - Clemson
11. Dante Sawyer - Auburn
12. Cortez McDowell - Auburn
13. Adam Choice - Clemson
14. Bryson Allen-Williams - USC
15. DJ Smith
16. Demarquis Gates - Ole Miss
17. Myles Autry
18. Nicholas Ruffin - Auburn
19. Andrew Williams
20. Milan Richard - Clemson
21. Stanley Williams - Kentucky
22. Wesley Green - USC
23. Kevin Mouhon
24. Nick Glass - UGA
25. Kendall Baker - UGA


You forgot Kendall Baker just commit to UGA, so it's actually tied at 6.5 based on your list.

Also, Elisha Shaw will be a UGA commit.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 10:31 pm to
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You forgot Kendall Baker just commit to UGA, so it's actually tied at 6.5 based on your list.


Ah, was just going off the 247 article linked, but I def could've missed one.

Clemson likely doesn't have a chance at winning the State as per this point system, but if we snag Raekwon it will be our best GA haul by a country mile since Danny's days.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48337 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 10:44 pm to
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if we snag Raekwon it will be our best GA haul by a country mile since Danny's days.


I wouldn't hold your breathe. He's Ohio State/Bama/UGA in that order.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 7/5/13 at 11:05 pm to
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I wouldn't hold your breathe. He's Ohio State/Bama/UGA in that order.


Lol, gotta love UGA fans. He certainly might not go to Clemson, but we're not behind UGA, that's a fact.

You could believe me or read it from the player himself.

Clemson is second
Posted by dawg4lyfe
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:04 am to
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but if we snag Raekwon
















































Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:07 am to
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but if we snag Raekwon it will be our best GA haul by a country mile since Danny's days.



Danny Ford...NCAA recruiting violations...Dabo Sweeney...cut his coaching teeth under Mike Dubose...NCAA recruiting violations...hmmmmmm...
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48337 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:19 am to
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You could believe me or read it from the player himself.


If you want to take a high school kid's top 5 list at face value, be my guest. But the only teams that will end up mattering in the end are the one's I listed.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:37 am to
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1A. UGA - 6.5
1B. Clemson - 6.5
3. Auburn - 3
4. USC - 2
5. Bama - 1.5
5. Ole Miss - 1



fify

This is a SEC message board. You do not have the right to put Clemson above another SEC school like you did.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 5:26 pm to
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If you want to take a high school kid's top 5 list at face value, be my guest. But the only teams that will end up mattering in the end are the one's I listed.


He might go elsewhere than Clemson, but just like with Nkemdiche, he's not going to UGA.

Clemson has tons of staying power with RM.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 5:26 pm to
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This is a SEC message board. You do not have the right to put Clemson above another SEC school like you did.


Touche, tie goes to the SEC team.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42157 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 5:43 pm to
And what might Clemson offer that UGA can't?
This post was edited on 7/6/13 at 6:16 pm
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 6:45 pm to
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And what might Clemson offer that UGA can't?


It's not what one school might offer that the other won't. It's recruiting, some just choose one school over another.

Clemson has been on this kid as long if not longer than anyone, just like they were with Watson. No one on UGA's staff knew about Watson when Morris was watching his games each week. Now they weren't that far ahead with RM, but they've been on him as long as anyone. He's tight with all the UGA kids who are already committed to Clemson.

I'm in no way shape or form saying he's leaning to Clemson or making some grand prediction, but to say Clemson is a distant fourth is idiotic.
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 6:49 pm to
Hey, don't you mean the recruiting service that Clemson pays to recruit and offer half the southeast? Surely they were the ones watching the game...Morris was likely polishing his interviewing tactics.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42157 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 7:45 pm to
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I'm in no way shape or form saying he's leaning to Clemson or making some grand prediction, but to say Clemson is a distant fourth is idiotic.

And to say that there's no chance he lands at UGA is just as idiotic.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48337 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 7:52 pm to
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No one on UGA's staff knew about Watson when Morris was watching his games each week.


Wrong. We just didn't offer him until he would agree to work out in front of the UGA coaches, as is recruiting policy for Richt and Bobo when recruiting QBs. Given their track records with Greene, Shockley, Stafford, and Murray, I'd say they know what they're doing.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42157 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:03 pm to
I thought we waited until after signing day so that we wouldn't scare off Bryce Ramsey as well.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48337 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:09 pm to
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I thought we waited until after signing day so that we wouldn't scare off Bryce Ramsey as well.
Eh, not really. Brice was an EE, so while we did hold off on offering Watson it wasn't necessarily because of Brice (though I guess you could say we held off on offering earlier in 2012 because of Brice)
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