re: Big-Time Recruiting is now controlled by 20 programs

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Unfortunately there really isn't any way to make sure talent gets distributed more evenly

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dafuq? Why should it be?

This isn't pro sports where one team can have a massively higher payroll than another team and just buy out all the talent. Kids pick and choose where they want to go of their own free will.

Sorry that more kids want to play for alabama than they do for iowa state. There's nothing that can, or should, be done about that.

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Big-Time Recruiting is now controlled by 20 programs

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You make it seem like this is some new development. These same schools have won virtually every single title over the last 50 years. It's kind of the chicken-and-the-egg situation.

The only school that has had sustained national championship level success that isn't in that list is Nebraska.

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ou make it seem like this is some new development.

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Relatively new, yes.

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These same schools have won virtually every single title over the last 50 years.

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Nebraska is no longer capable of winning National Titles.... they won 3 in the 1990s and played for another in 2001.

Penn State is not currently capable of winning a National Title... not with the way they've recruited over the last decade+... they won 2 National Titles in the 1980s.

BYU won a Title in 1984. They will never win another one.

Georgia Tech and Colorado shared the Title in 1990. They will never win another one.

Washington won a National Title in 1991. They'll likely never win another one.


There you have 6 programs accounting for 9 Titles won in the previous 50 seasons. None of those will likely ever win another title again, barring a Phil Knight type booster dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into their program.

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Washington was literally in the playoff this year.

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And they were manhandled by Bama, despite Bama playing one of their worst games of the season.

Washington has one of the best head coaches in all of CFB. For that reason, they are very capable of producing Top 5 or Top 10 teams... along with "lesser" programs like Wisconsin, etc... but Washington is not recruiting well enough to win a National Title.

It's one thing to eek your way into a playoff despite losing to USC. But in this day in age, a team like that has got to beat not just one, but TWO quality opponents in the playoff. Washington does not have the talent to make it through that gauntlet.

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Boise State came really close a couple times in the past decade or so.

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Boise State played no one in the regular season, so therefore won enough games to be "in the discussion." That does not mean they have the talent to beat two other playoff teams to win a National Title. There is no way.

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Va Tech came close to crashing a couple times in the decade or so prior.

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Exactly. Back in the 1990s... as I explained to you, this is a relatively new phenomenon.

Penn State won the Title in 1982
Miami won the Title in 1983
BYU won the Title in 1984
Penn State won the Title in 1986
Miami won the Title in 1987
Miami won the Title in 1989
Georgia Tech won a Title in 1990
Miami won a Title in 1990
Washington won a Title in 1991
Nebraska PLAYED for a Title in 1993
Nebraska won a Title in 1994
Nebraska won a Title in 1995
Nebraska won a Title in 1997
Virginia Tech PLAYED for a Title in 1999
Miami won a National Title in 2001
Nebraska PLAYED for a Title in 2001
Miami PLAYED for a Title in 2002

... and since then none of those programs have really had a chance.

Miami has the tradition and the recruiting territory to get back into the club, but for the past 10 years or so they've not recruited well enough to win a Title. Also, now that the football arms race is such a big deal in recruiting, they are trailing way behind in the facilities category.

So its to be seen whether Richt can get Miami back into the Club... for a decade now though, they have not been there and honestly show no signs of getting there.

Since 2003, only 12 programs have even PLAYED for a National Title in 14 seasons. Twelve of those 14 programs have played for it on multiple occasions.

The Georgia Tech's and BYU's are no longer breaking through. Those days are long gone now. That wasn't the case in the 1980s and 1990s.

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I think you could keep everything as is and implement a salary cap.

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Title 9 prevents that and will never allow college football players to get paid.

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Unfortunately there really isn't any way to make sure talent gets distributed more evenly so this snow ball effect will just continue.

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This is the saddest crybaby liberal shitpost I've seen today, did you vote for Bernie?

It's called getting a good coach, put money into your program, develop your players, and get better. You want handouts so you can compete in recruiting? Give me a break, kids wanna go where they wanna go. It's the same thing in every collegiate sport.

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I'm not taking anything away from them either, hell of a season, but let's not pretend it wasn't a blip on the radar.

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Bingo

Since 2003, here is how many times each program has PLAYED for a National Title:

5- Alabama
3- LSU
3- Ohio State
3- Oklahoma
2- Auburn
2- Clemson
2- Florida
2- Oregon
2- Texas
2- USC
1- Florida STate
1- Notre Dame

It's been the same 12 programs occupying all 28 spots in National Title games sine 2003. And in all likelihood, we're going to continue to see some combination of those teams playing for it every single year from this point on.

There are 4 programs right now who I think could be added to those if they get their stuff together:

(1) Georgia
We've recruited well enough. Five of our previous 6 classes were ranked in the Top 8 nationally. We'll likely land the #2 or #3 class this year. We're in a hot-bead of talent, and we have enough tradition that it doesn't hold us back like some other programs who have never won anything or come close. We have excellent facilities that are likely Top 10 nationally. The pieces are all there, we just have to finally get over that hump.

(2) Michigan
Michigan is loaded with tradition. They've got excellent facilities and tons of booster support. They are very close with Harbaugh to playing for National Titles again... might take a few more years though.

(3) Tennessee
Tennessee has plenty of tradition and great facilities. They won a Title as recently as 1998. While the Smokies aren't loaded with talent, they aren't too far from talent in Georgia and the Carolinas.

(4) Texas A&M
Texas A&M has always been a sleeping giant. They have too much money and are located amongst way too much talent not to be better (I know some can say the same thing about Georgia). Before jumping into the SEC, I would not have included them in the group. But their facilities are now arguably the best in the nation. They have the support and are located in an epicenter for talent.

While its impossible to know for sure, I would actually be willing to bet that the 16 programs mentioned above will be the only teams to win a title in the next 25 years. I would be shocked if another team was able to.

Penn State, Miami and maybe a few others are capable of getting back into the Club, but they are not there now and haven't been for quite some time.

Every year or two a program like Washington will make the playoff. And there is a chance that once a decade that type of team will pull a playoff upset and advance to the Title Game. But its asking too much for them to do that twice. They just aren't going to win it all.

I'm 25 years old bro. Old enough to know that Mississippi State is going to be struggling to get to .500 every year like this season without your GOAT QB. Sorry you're butt hurt that I pointed out that you suck, have always sucked, and will always continue to suck. It's not that "The Man" is out to keep down the little guy, it's literally just that your program is shitty and not capable of winning at a high level. End of story. Deal with it.

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Washington was literally in the playoff this year.

And they were manhandled by Bama, despite Bama playing one of their worst games of the season.

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Don't you think UWs defense had something to do with that? His point is they're awfully close, so it's not impossible. VTech, with Fuentes, will be another program on the rise. Yes, it's much, much harder for these programs, and they'll never reload the way a Bama or OSU can, but a title can be accomplished from time to time. UW defense was elite, they just didn't have the QB to win it all (Browning is wildly overrated, IMO) Put Darnold or Watson on that team and it's a different story.

So how butthurt, or sick do you get when we beat you in football?

Sick scale 1-10

#1 - mild discomfort w/ or without diarrhea

#10 - unbearable abdominal pain w/ vomiting diarrhea, vomiting bile after meals, fever, skin infections/ulcerations night sweats, tachycardia, sexual dysfunction, and loose stools for > than 1 month.