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re: 5* WR Rakim Jarrett commits to LSU

Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:33 am to
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:33 am to
Well, that's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:56 am to
Kinda hard to kick a woman beater off the team when the victim waited a year to report the incident.

When she did report it, he was gone within a week.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:00 am to
You’ve been posting here for ten years. We both know you’ve heard worse.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:10 am to
Okay. Probably right. The transfer portal risk is just the new dumb.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:15 am to
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I’ve heard OSU fans say they turned down Rakim



Rivals says OSU could have 3 5* WRs

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Could Ohio State match what Oklahoma did last year and land three five-star wide receivers? It could happen. Julian Fleming is already ranked as a five-star and Gee Scott Jr. is putting himself in the discussion as he continues to improve. But I really like Jaxon Smith-Njigba as well and Mookie Cooper will probably be moved from athlete to wide receiver before all is said and done. It will be tough to match the Theo Wease, Jadon Haslewood, Trejan Bridges haul from Oklahoma last year but Ohio State appears to have the best chance so far in 2020.


As I said, Jarrett is a great talent, but OSU is extremely happy with what they have, and could have 2 guys who end up ranked ahead of Jarrett in the class (with Scott Jr.)
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:32 am to
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Okay. Probably right. The transfer portal risk is just the new dumb


It probably is bullshite but after seeing some high profile players leave and especially hearing the Ross kid from Clemson say he was going to transfer mid season because of playing time does lend some credence to it.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73294 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:39 am to
How does one predict that a player is a transfer portal risk, though? I mean, I doubt he has stated: "I can't wait to sign with UGA and enter the transfer portal."
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 11:29 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:53 am to
Would you not agree that prima donnas are more likely to enter the portal than those who are more humble?
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:56 am to
I would agree that prospects tend to get labeled as prima donnas when they don't commit to or sign with certain programs.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:56 am to
Because if a player says he wants to play right off the bat, but you’re not sure he’s good enough, he can transfer elsewhere.

Look at what happened with Kelvin Joseph.

I’m not saying that would be the case with Jarrett, but once you’ve been hit by it a couple times it definitely becomes a little bit of a concern.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:01 am to
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Look at what happened with Kelvin Joseph.


What about Kelvin Joseph should have led LSU to evaluate him as being a "transfer portal risk?"
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39952 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:04 am to
Stop being defensive. I’m not talking about anyone specific. We all have them on our team.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73294 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:21 am to
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Stop being defensive.


I'm not being defensive. I'm demonstrating how the "transfer portal risk" concept is dumb. It's just a new form of denial for fanbases to rationalize a prospect not picking their program.

All top programs are going to have players join the transfer portal when they fail to see playing time or start when they thought they would. There is no way to assess that risk prior to the player joining the team and competing for playing time.

Since Kelvin Joseph was presented as an example, let's examine that a little closer. He saw the field last season when Fulton got injured, and he played pretty well. He naturally thought he would be a started this season after Greedy left. He got beaten out by one of the most highly touted CB prospects ever in Derek Stingley. There was nothing during Joseph's recruiting that suggested that he was going to jump ship or that he was a "prima donna." He would be starting as a DB at many other power 5 programs. He just happened to get passed up by a unique talent.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:28 am to
So you don’t think certain types of players are more prone to transfer than others?
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:36 am to
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So you don’t think certain types of players are more prone to transfer than others?


Perhaps, but there is no way to predict which ones are versus which ones aren't. A lot of it is situational and depends on how things develop after signing day. Almost all top prospects are looking for early playing time at a top program. When reality falls in line with expectations, players will stay the course. When it doesn't, they will consider their options. It's simple. Well adjusted adults do this on a daily basis with jobs, relationships, and investments.
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 11:37 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:54 am to
Unfortunately, we aren’t talking about well adjusted adults
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 2:20 pm to
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Perhaps, but there is no way to predict which ones are versus which ones aren't


I would argue ones that expect/ask for guaranteed playing time their Freshman year are bigger transfer risks.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 2:23 pm to
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I would argue ones that expect/ask for guaranteed playing time their Freshman year are bigger transfer risks.


That's a large portion of blue chip prospects. If UGA wants to pass on all of those guys, send them our way.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42426 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 3:01 pm to
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That's a large portion of blue chip prospects. If UGA wants to pass on all of those guys, send them our way.


Obviously we aren’t doing that. I just think that sometimes you can tell how important that is to a player.

We made mistakes with Justin Fields last year because we did a poor job with playing time expectations. Again, I am not saying Jarrett is this type of player or that it should be the #1 concern. Just that it is something that has to be taken into consideration nowadays.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68253 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 3:18 pm to
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Look at what happened with Kelvin Joseph.



He's leaving because he was about to face a lengthy suspension for drugs. Dude couldn't stop smoking weed and was on a really bad path overall with respect to coaching staff and authority in general (the shooting at the miami rap event). He's not leaving due to playing time. He played a ton as a freshman. Was suspended for bowl game (weed). Think our policy, which hopefully goes away soon is 1 game, then 6 games, then a year for a certain number of offenses.
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 3:21 pm
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