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re: 5* VOLS OL commit Cade Mays opening it back up
Posted on 11/26/17 at 3:49 pm to IStillMissDanny
Posted on 11/26/17 at 3:49 pm to IStillMissDanny
Welcome to Athens, Mr. Mays.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:56 pm to volfan30
Cade is wearing Clemson gloves tonight for his state championship game.
Welcome to Tigertown Cade
Welcome to Tigertown Cade
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:29 pm to FinallyHome
Will go down to the wire. He is a big priority for UGA and Clemson. Seems like a great kid.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:49 pm to NCDawg52
He does seem like a great kid from everything I have seen about him
Just came across a Twitter post that said he was carted off the field tonight for an apparent leg injury, hope he's ok
Just came across a Twitter post that said he was carted off the field tonight for an apparent leg injury, hope he's ok
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:56 pm to FinallyHome
That means he's all dawg if he had an injury!!! That's the trend with the rest of our recruits.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:00 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
No joke I was going to say this in my last post, but I didn't want to make a shitty joke out of him getting hurt
He seems like the type that would take rehab very seriously and work hard to come back better. No matter which school he picks, I think he will be a winner the next 4 years
He seems like the type that would take rehab very seriously and work hard to come back better. No matter which school he picks, I think he will be a winner the next 4 years
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:11 pm to FinallyHome
He named a top three of Georgia, Clemson and Ohio St. Tennessee out
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:42 pm to FinallyHome
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He does seem like a great kid from everything I have seen about him
Just came across a Twitter post that said he was carted off the field tonight for an apparent leg injury, hope he's ok
Eeek... I know there are injuries to recruits every year, but damn this year seems like an awful lot?! Maybe it's just that there are more happening specifically to recruits on our radar, but damn. Definitely hope it's not serious for him...
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:49 am to fibonaccisquared
I've thought about the injury thing a lot. It seems like MCL and ACL injuries are very common in high school, college and professional football. The way Strength and Conditioning has advanced, you would think that these injuries would go down significantly.
I remember a picture that Connor Shaw, a former SCar QB, shared on social media when he was still in college. It was a picture of an Under Armour shoe coming apart and he said it was the 3rd time it had happened and there is no wonder that kids are tearing ACL's. I wonder if the major shoe companies making a cheap but good looking cleat has anything to do with it.
I remember a picture that Connor Shaw, a former SCar QB, shared on social media when he was still in college. It was a picture of an Under Armour shoe coming apart and he said it was the 3rd time it had happened and there is no wonder that kids are tearing ACL's. I wonder if the major shoe companies making a cheap but good looking cleat has anything to do with it.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 6:31 am to SlowEasyConfident
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Tennessee out
So is Clemson and Ohio St.

Posted on 12/1/17 at 7:46 am to FinallyHome
That's a very high possibility.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 7:49 am to FinallyHome
They do say a lighter shoe is the cause for many of them. They don't actually provide support.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 7:54 am to Porter Osborne Jr
I would have to see some actual data to support an increased incidence of knee ligament injuries before putting the shoe companies in the cross hairs.
Any update on Cade's injury?
Any update on Cade's injury?
Posted on 12/1/17 at 8:41 am to NCDawg52
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I would have to see some actual data to support an increased incidence of knee ligament injuries before putting the shoe companies in the cross hairs.
There actually is a fair amount of research done in the running space on lighter weight shoes and injuries (due to recent trends)...
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Grain of salt and everything, given that this is running specifically, but would imagine there are some carry over concepts to all athletic endeavors, and this was based on "heavy set" equating to 185 pounds or so... or roughly .5-.75 of a football player's weight...

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Recent research conducted by the University of South Australia’s Sansom Institute for Health Research suggests that lightweight running shoes may cause more harm than good for heavy-set runners. According to the study, though lighter-weight sneakers are intended to be a safe alternative to conventional running trainers, this may not be the case for all.
The research examined 61 trained runners over the course of 26 weeks. It discovered that runners weighing more than 85 kilograms (approximately 187 pounds) could be at a much higher risk for injury wearing lightweight sneakers. The study suggests that these heavier runners are over three times more likely to sustain an injury in such shoes than when wearing traditional running shoes.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 8:56 am to FinallyHome
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The way Strength and Conditioning has advanced, you would think that these injuries would go down significantly.
The way strength and conditioning has advanced is the problem. These guys muscles are too big and fast for their tendons and ligaments to support.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 8:59 am to fibonaccisquared
Well. According to that article, I am apparently in whatever category comes above "heavy set".
Interesting study, but the mechanism of ligamental injury is different than the stress/impact injuries they are screening for in that test. Distance running can usually be done with or without a functional ACL.
It's a topic I'm interested in personally and professionally, but I don't want to derail the thread
Interesting study, but the mechanism of ligamental injury is different than the stress/impact injuries they are screening for in that test. Distance running can usually be done with or without a functional ACL.
It's a topic I'm interested in personally and professionally, but I don't want to derail the thread
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:07 am to NCDawg52
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Well. According to that article, I am apparently in whatever category comes above "heavy set".
Interesting study, but the mechanism of ligamental injury is different than the stress/impact injuries they are screening for in that test. Distance running can usually be done with or without a functional ACL.
It's a topic I'm interested in personally and professionally, but I don't want to derail the thread
Yeah, was not trying to indicate that it was a direct corollary , but it was a study I'd seen previously. Interested as well... if you have any other studies you've seen at all, feel free to link it, but agreed... no need to get too far off topic.

Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:58 am to RandySavage
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The way strength and conditioning has advanced is the problem. These guys muscles are too big and fast for their tendons and ligaments to support.
That is another piece to the puzzle.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 11:25 am to RandySavage
If that were the case, wouldn't pretty much everybody in college and NFL tear them?
I'm not totally disagreeing with you, but I think saying S&C is the problem is a reach.
I think that many college Strength coaches assume that players know the proper techniques to most of the lifts in the weight room. The problem is, many of these kids weren't coached on technique because many high school Strength coaches don't know the proper techniques. In college and high school, I believe that Strength coaches just pile the weight on and try to make the kids big and strong as possible. Over time, by not performing Olympic lifts correctly, I believe that this starts to wear on an athletes tendons and ligaments.
I'm not totally disagreeing with you, but I think saying S&C is the problem is a reach.
I think that many college Strength coaches assume that players know the proper techniques to most of the lifts in the weight room. The problem is, many of these kids weren't coached on technique because many high school Strength coaches don't know the proper techniques. In college and high school, I believe that Strength coaches just pile the weight on and try to make the kids big and strong as possible. Over time, by not performing Olympic lifts correctly, I believe that this starts to wear on an athletes tendons and ligaments.
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