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re: 5 star Owen Pappoe committed to AU 5/1/18

Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:14 am to
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26534 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:14 am to
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Curious - did Kirby screw over Grayson or something? Seems like a bad idea for one of the top schools in the state getting screwed over. What’s the history there?

Kirby doesn't appear to be willing to humor Kenyatta Watson. I think that's pretty much it.
Posted by Glory, Glory
Pawleys Island, SC
Member since Nov 2012
4498 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:39 am to
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For a long time, Grayson was coached by a Clemson alum


Correction: Conn is a Bama alumnus, who roomed with Dabo at Bama. He’s coaching at Clemson now.
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 6:41 am
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2054 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:43 am to
Congratulations to AU on OP...
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
3151 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 7:12 am to
Thanks for the correction. Editing original post.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26184 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 7:42 am to
Think he ends up in Athens in the long run
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 8:25 am to
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To steal this guy from Georgia's backyard would be criminal for Auburn


As any smart coach would do and has been used against Bama in the past....sell our depth and our big class previously as a hindrance. We signed a lot of good players specifically at LB. Obviously Pappoe would have a roll but any team would be smart to use that against us.
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2054 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 9:05 am to
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As any smart coach would do and has been used against Bama in the past....sell our depth and our big class previously as a hindrance. We signed a lot of good players specifically at LB. Obviously Pappoe would have a roll but any team would be smart to use that against us.



yeppers, gotta use the bullets that you got! Now, Saban somehow navigated through this the last 10 years - can Kirby and Staff? Probably but we still gotta prove it!
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88656 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 9:27 am to
My feelings on this will be torn on whether OP is truly an OLB or an ILB. The services all list him as OLB, but I could have sworn I saw somehwere that we wanted him at ILB to essentially be our "next roquan".

As mentioned, we have loads of talent at OLB and we've signed a high number of studs at the position the last 2 classes. If he is a for sure OLB this loss doesn't hurt quite as bad, besides the fact he's going to a rival that we'll play every year. If he is an ILB however, it hurts badly because we really don't have a lot of answers there. Monty Rice could be great but we just don't know. We signed Tindall last year but the guy isn't even on campus yet. OP could have been a multi-year answer at the position (to go along with Nolan smith on the outside ) which would upset me slightly to miss out on him.


Also as mentioned, despite him picking AU today I'm not gonna sweat this one until signing day. We've all seen kirby work magic in flipping folks, and other than liking AU's coach I just don't see what auburn offers that we don't. Wouldn't shock me in the slightest to see him commit to AU but end up in athens in teh end.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26534 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 9:31 am to
UGA OLBs are typically listed as weakside DEs on recruiting sites because of the 3-4.

If they're listed as OLBs, that usually means ILB or flex LB for UGA.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
19201 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 9:36 am to
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To steal this guy from Georgia's backyard would be criminal for Auburn


Why? Last year was not the norm for Auburn recruiting Georgia players. The norm is Auburn getting a good share of the state's top recruits. Kirby doesn't have the luxury of negatively recruiting Gus' job security this year.
Posted by TheGusBus34
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2014
1635 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 9:37 am to
last year no auburn commits flipped to any school...
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26534 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 9:37 am to
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last year no auburn commits flipped to any school...

That's just because Kirby didn't want them
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88656 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 9:40 am to
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last year no auburn commits flipped to any school..


and this time last year we had like 6 guys that are currently with us that were committed elsewhere. Just saying I won't count kirby out.

I'm also curious how much OP's grayson teammates factor in here. We don't really want any of them other than owen, while AU has basically offered all of them even the scrub center.
Posted by TIGERSPIKE
Member since Oct 2016
1445 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 9:55 am to
As far as offering all the Grayson guys goes we really need Morris more than the rest. Clark was also a must with the style of our running game. We definitely need OP and want him but Williams has done well getting the LBs he wanted in the past couple classes. We run a 4-3 but have our nickel on the field 80% of the time so our depth isn't quite the concern most people think.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
16383 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 9:58 am to
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last year no auburn commits flipped to any school...


Well PLaid

Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88656 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:03 am to
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As far as offering all the Grayson guys goes we really need Morris more than the rest


Morris is a good prospect, no qualms there.

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Clark was also a must with the style of our running game.


He's also ranked 1100+ nationally and the only other even remotely "good" offer he has is WVU. The rest of his minimal offers are the likes of USA, temple, kansas, etc.

And keep in mind I'm not knocking this or sayign it's anything shady, it happens all the time and we've done it quite a bit. We offered Crowell's Hs teammate, we offered zander ogletree to help with alec, etc. Everyone does it. I'm just thinking out loud that I wonder if some of OP's teammates that have blanket offers to AU (and don't to UGA) is playing a part in his decision.
Posted by dawg4lyfe
Member since May 2012
11662 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:08 am to
I think Clark is a need for them. Just shows how comfortable Kirby must feel about this class to not be going hard after Morris and Kevin Harris being a plan B option.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88656 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:15 am to
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I think Clark is a need for them


I'm sure, all I'm saying is that it's not coincidental that the center they have committed has minimal other offers and has highly ranked teammates.

6 of the centers ranked ahead of clark don't even have an offer from AU.

Again, not saying anythign nefarious is at play, just saying that the offer was likely facilitated by having a number of high ranked teammates that AU wants.
Posted by Rhymenoceros
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
4541 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:20 am to
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and other than liking AU's coach I just don't see what auburn offers that we don't.


That argument works against you just as easily. Taking off red and black glasses, you cant say that UGA offers something more than AU does except for getting to say he plays for his state's school. He will likely have equal opportunity to play for championships, and get drafted at both schools.
Posted by Rhymenoceros
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
4541 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:25 am to
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6 of the centers ranked ahead of clark don't even have an offer from AU.


We are all over Clay Webb just aren't getting him. Those six Centers you reference are all equally 3 stars and/or west coast guys - its not like we are passing on offering a bunch of highly ranked guys. Clark was the best option for us, and the added value of being a teammate with other guys we are really recruiting hard. Grayson head coach said Clark is his team leader and the best OL on his team and that's including Morris.
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