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5 Star Offensive Skill Recruits of the Last 10 years vs Production in College

Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:09 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:09 pm
So was bored at work the other day and put this together. It might be incomplete, so don’t quote me on anything I did the runningbacks, will try to do the others later

What are the odds your 5 star offensive skill position will not be a bust? Here is a list of every 5 star skill position from that last 10 years, with any top 5 player notated as well. How well did they perform in college? Were they a bust, role player, or star? More than likely that 5 stars will have a much better probability than lesser, but this basically is using past precedent to garner future expectations

Used 247 composite, when considering category, used only college career, not NFL . Also, when I say “star” I don’t mean best of the best, but a good/top performer

Total
RB’s – 45
QB’s —29
WR/TE’s – 48

Total Top 5 Rank
RB’s—4
QB’s—7
WR/TE-- 7


RB’s
04’
Adrian Peterson –1—Star
Bobby Washington—Bust, transfer
Charlie Jones—Bust, transfer

05’
Jonathan Stewart--Star
Marlon Lucky—Role player/star
Antone Smith—Role Player
Kevin Grady--Bust
Jason Gwaltney—Bust, Criminal
Toney Baker—Bust
Darren McFadden--Star

06’
Beanie Wells--Star
Stafon Johnson—Role Player
Allen Bradford—Switched to LB
CJ Spiller--Star
Demarco Murray--Star
Mike Goodson—Role Player/Star
CJ Gable—Role Player/bust
James Aldridge—Bust/Role Player
LeSean McCoy--Star

07’
Joe Mcknight—1—Star
Marc Taylor—Switched to DB
Noel Devine--Star

08’
Darrell Scott—4--Bust
Jermie Calhoun--Bust
Richard Samuel--Bust

09’
Bryce Brown—2--Bust
Trent Richardson--Star
Christine Michael—Role Player

10’
Mike Dyer—Star/Bust
Marcus Latimore--Star
Lache Seastrunk--Star

11’
Isaiah Crowell—Star/Bust
Brandon Williams--Bust
Malcom Brown—Role Player
DeAnthony Thomas--Star
Savon Huggins--bust

12’
Johnathan Grey-TBD/Role player
Keith Marshall-TBD/Role Player
TJ Yeldon--Star
Rushel Shell—TBD/role player

13’--TBD
Derrick Henry
Thomas Tyner
Kelvin Taylor
Keith Ford
Derrick Green

RB’s
40(with 13’s taken out)

13 stars
2 Stars/Bust(Dyer & Crowell)
2 star/role players

7 Role Players

2 Bust/role Players
12 Busts
2 N/A’s position change

As percentages,
42.5% Player will do something good
17.5% they will be mediocre
40% will bust
Top 5 50/50%

Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:10 pm to
For QB's Im either doing star or bust. And using the star term loosely, since no role player. Star could mean multi year starter

QB’s
04’
Rhett Bomar—4--Star/Bust
Xavier Lee--Bust
Anthony Morellii--Star
Chad Henne--Star
Matt Tuiasosopo--N/A switched to baseball
Bobby Reid--Bust

05’
Mark Sanchez—3--Star
Ryan Perrilloux--Bust

06’
Matt Stafford--Star
Mitch Mustain--Bust
Tim Tebow--Star

07’
Jimmy Clausen—2--Star
Ryan Mallet—5--Star
Tyrod Taylor--Star
Aaron Corp--Bust
John Brantley--Star

08’
Terrelle Pryor—2--Star
Dayne Cris-Bust
EJ Manuel--Star
09’
Matt Barkley—1--Star
Russell Shepard—3--N/A
Garret Gilbert--Bust/Star
Aaron Murray--Star

10’

11’
QB
Jeff Driskell--Bust
Braxton Miller--Star

12’
Jameis Winston--Star
Gunner Kiel--Bust

13’
Max Browne
Christain Hackenburg

15 Stars
2 Star/bust

8 Bust
2 N/A

Percentage
63% Star or Star/Bust
37% Bust or position change

This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 10:15 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:10 pm to
WR/TE
04’
Early Doucet
Fred Davis
Cameron Colvin
Xavier Carter
Calvin Johnson
Zach Miller
Dwayne Jarrett

05’
Patrick Turner—2
Derrick Williams—4
Fred Rouse
Martellus Bennet
DeSean Jackson
Anthony Moeaki
Dajlean Farr

06’
Percy Harvin – 2
Vidal Hazelton—3

07’
Terrance Toliver
Arrelious Benn
Deonte Thompson

08’
Julio Jones—3
AJ Green
DeAndre Brown
Jonathan Baldwin
Michael Floyd
Blake Ayles

09’
Rueben Randle
Andre Dubuse
Marlon Brown

10’
Robert Woods--3
Kyle Prater
Mike Davis
Da’Rick Rodgers
Xavier Grimble
Trovon Reed
Darius White

11’
George Farmer
Jarvis Landry
Sammy Watkins
Trey Mctoyer
Nick Oleary

12’
Dorial Green-Beckham—1
Stefon Diggs
Thomas Johnson

13’
Lequan Treadwell
OJ Howard
Robert Foster
Ricky Seals Jr.
Robbie Rhodes
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

Bobby Reid


quote:

And then to say we made that decision because of Donovan Woods...THATS NOT TRUE. So get your facts straight


Sorry. Thanks for putting this together
Posted by lowspark12
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Derrick Green


got bust written all over him.
Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:46 pm to
just a note, Christine Michael would be classified as at least /star if he hadn't had two season ending injuries. Drafted in the 2nd round, their first pick, last year by the Seahawks.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:53 pm to
C Mike had a better career than Goodson statistically also. I would classify both as role players though
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

TJ Yeldon--Star


Lol?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:32 pm to
Can't believe Gurley was just a 4 star.

Anyone know why?
Posted by randomways
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:43 pm to
quote:


Lol?


Two thousand yard rushing seasons in his first two seasons at Bama pretty much makes him a star, wouldn't you say? Especially since he was behind Lacy his freshman season. Not sure why you would find that amusing.
Posted by randomways
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:45 pm to
So what's the deal with the QBs/WRs? Are you going to finish those later or just putting up the information for people who wants to do it themselves?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:47 pm to
I got busy today, I'll do star/bust for them tomorrow.
Posted by randomways
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

Can't believe Gurley was just a 4 star.

Anyone know why?


Marshall was the one getting all the hype at the time. Gurley got 4 stars, so the analysts didn't exactly whiff on him. He was just barely short of a fifth star, iirc.

Edit: Checking 247, he was Composite .9626 and 74 in the country, while 247 had him rated at 96 and number 56 in the country. That's getting up there as far as four stars go, so even without that 5th star, he was getting lots of respect.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 4:51 pm
Posted by The_Joker
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

Lol?


2 1000 yard years, is a great receiver, averaged over 6 YPC both years. Do you even football?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

Can't believe Gurley was just a 4 star.

Anyone know why?

He didn't get any publicity early in the process, and then it was sort of a case where no site really wanted to go out on a limb with his ranking.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:04 pm to
You left out Trey Williams for A&M at Running Back.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:04 pm to
He was overshadowed in NC by Marshall. That and he didn't really come on strong tilk his senior season. I believe he was a 3 star till the last ranking.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

Ricky Seals Jr.


It's Ricky Seals-Jones.
Posted by randomways
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:10 pm to
quote:



It's Ricky Seals-Jones.


We're using his maiden name, not his bitch name.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:12 pm to
Looks like they added the "apb" designation at some point, I wasn't looking for it. I'll figure out what year and add the missed tomorrow.
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