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Since 2016
LSU is 11-10 against top 25 opponents
10-6 against top 15
7-5 against top 10
2-3 against top 5



LSU also has a national title. Georgia doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt because you haven’t won one in 40 years. What’s the difference between what UGA has accomplished and what Oregon has accomplished over Kirby’s tenure?
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DawgsLife
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you’re 100% correct and it’s a simple fact- Georgia needed Baylor and Kentucky to be ranked when they beat them to be above .500 in Kirby’s tenure against top 15 teams



The same thing could be said about every other team in America. In order to say you have beaten top 15 teams the teams have to be ranked in the top 15. THAT is your argument? We needed teams to be ranked in the top 15 to say we beat teams that were in the top 15?




Solid logic.


You know...if none of the teams LSU beat were in the top 15 then they would not have beaten anybody in the top 15!

Crap dude.


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DawgsLife
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What’s the difference between what UGA has accomplished and what Oregon has accomplished over Kirby’s tenure?

Well....there was that playoff appearance, Rose Bowl victory and playing for a national Title. There are three differences.

BTW, what is the expiration date for a National Title?
At what [point do they no longer count? 5 years? 10? 15? 20? I am curious as to when Florida can no longer claim theirs.


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What’s the difference between what UGA has accomplished and what Oregon has accomplished over Kirby’s tenure?

Have you ever considered Oregon to be truly competitive for the national championship over the past 4 years? Answer honestly.


atlgator
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The point isn’t about being competitive for a national title. It’s winning it. You’re saying that you’re more accomplished than Oregon when in reality you’ve accomplished the same. You won a playoff game but have no national titles in modern history. It’s not a knock on Georgia, but bringing up records against top 25 teams compared to LSU doesn’t matter when they have that ultimate trump card that UGA doesn’t have.

And to answer DawgLife, when you see your team win that championship, the feeling, the ring, the banner, it never goes away. There is no expiration date. But if you weren’t alive to experience yours, it’s much harder to appreciate and understand the feeling I’m describing.


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re: 5* S James Williams Opa-Locka (FL) HS
He should know. He watched it.


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but bringing up records against top 25 teams compared to LSU doesn’t matter when they have that ultimate trump card that UGA doesn’t have.


The original point wasn't to compare against LSU iirc. It was to address the whole "UGA/Kirby doesn't win any big games" talking point, which is objectively false.


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DawgsLife
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The point isn’t about being competitive for a national title.


Here is what you wrote and asked:
What’s the difference between what UGA has accomplished and what Oregon has accomplished over Kirby’s tenure?

I answered three things.
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There is no expiration date.
Great. Because when you keep bringing up thta it has been 40 years, I thought there must be an expiration date or something. has it been awhile? yes. We are painfully aware it has been awhile. We hate it. But you act like we haven't been close.

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But if you weren’t alive to experience yours, it’s much harder to appreciate and understand the feeling I’m describing.
See? there you are. I was alive. but since it has been almost 15 years, there are more and more Florida fans who were not alive for their last one....or were too young to truly remember it.

Honest question. How old were you when Florida won their last title?
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DawgsLife
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The point isn’t about being competitive for a national title. It’s winning it. You’re saying that you’re more accomplished than Oregon when in reality you’ve accomplished the same.

That's done. You act lke the only accoplishment is to win a National Championship and that simply isn't true. Or, if it is....Welcome to being irrelevant, Florida, because you aren't on Oregon's level either.

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You won a playoff game but have no national titles in modern history.
This is why nobody takes Florida fans seriously. Modern history? When did modern history begin? Here. let me help you:

Modern History begins after the end of the Middle Ages in the 16th century and continues on today. So now we know you are not, or were not a history major.

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It’s not a knock on Georgia,
Nop. It isn't. You are just trying to make it a knock against Georgia. Failed. Again.



atlgator
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That's done. You act lke the only accoplishment is to win a National Championship and that simply isn't true. Or, if it is....Welcome to being irrelevant, Florida, because you aren't on Oregon's level either.


Nope. Florida has 3 within most fans’ lifetime and 2 within the players’ lifetimes. The only accomplishment isn’t winning national titles, but that’s the ultimate accomplishment. When you haven’t won a national title, you justify it with the accomplishments you do have. Winning the sec is a good thing, going to the playoff is a good thing, going to a NY6 game is a good thing. They’re all things to be proud of. But they don’t feel the same as the ultimate goal. Oregon fans and UGA fans younger than 40 don’t understand because they haven’t felt what it’s like to win a national title.

Also, modern college football history began when everybody’s favorite teams stopped running the wishbone and triple option. You know this but you’re playing dumb (I’m assuming you’re playing, apologies if you’re just dumb).


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Do you honestly think the players remember? Most weren’t even in 1st grade when they last won.


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meansonny
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Also, modern college football history began when everybody’s favorite teams stopped running the wishbone and triple option. You know this but you’re playing dumb (I’m assuming you’re playing, apologies if you’re just dumb).


How is he supposed to know the shite that you make up in your head?


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djsdawg
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Sorry gator, but 2008 is and has been old news. It’s 2020.


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DawgsLife
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Nope. Florida has 3 within most fans’ lifetime and 2 within the players’ lifetimes.

And those players were not old enough to know anything about it or care about them. What? You think the players paid attention to college football when they were 3?

Again. How old were you when Florida won their late National Title?


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Also, modern college football history began when everybody’s favorite teams stopped running the wishbone and triple option. You know this but you’re playing dumb (I’m assuming you’re playing, apologies if you’re just dumb).
So you are just going to make up an arbitrary date? Sweet. Not surprising at all.

Okay. So when teams stopped running the wishbone is when modern football started?

the wishbone was considered to be the most productive and innovative offensive scheme in college football during the 1970s and 1980s.[1]

I guess you were wrong about Georgia not winning a title in modern history then, huh?

Remind us again when Georgia won their Championship?
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DawgsLife
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All by itself so you don't miss it.....


How old were you when Florida won it's last title?


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atlgator
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How old were you when Florida won their late National Title?


I was an early teenager and lucky enough to be there to enjoy it with my Dad and my Granddad. What’s your point? It’s about the accomplishment and the fact that it was recent enough that a vast majority of Gator/SEC school fans remember it. You had to be born before, what, 1970? To remember and have enjoyed Georgia’s title?

If you agree modern era football began when teams stopped running the wish bone/triple option, and then you post a link saying the wishbone was at its height in the 70’s and 80’s, that’d imply Georgia won their title long before college football evolved into its “modern era” of offense in the late 80’s and 90’s.


DawgsLife
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I was an early teenager and lucky enough to be there to enjoy it with my Dad and my Granddad.


Congrats. That'll be a memory you'll be able to treasure forever.

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What’s your point? It’s about the accomplishment and the fact that it was recent enough that a vast majority of Gator/SEC school fans remember it. You had to be born before, what, 1970? To remember and have enjoyed Georgia’s title?


Yeah. So? I was born in 1957. Yeah, I am old. But I saw it and enjoyed it every bit as much as you enjoyed Florida's. So....what's your point? Believe it or not they still count and it doesn't matter who was alive. WW II is still relevant. First man on the moon is still relevant. The Civil War is still relevant. Just because you or somebody else was not alive when it happened does not make something relevant or irrelevant.

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If you agree modern era football began when teams stopped running the wish bone/triple option, and then you post a link saying the wishbone was at its height in the 70’s and 80’s, that’d imply Georgia won their title long before college football evolved into its “modern era” of offense in the late 80’s and 90’s.
Yeah. After I posted it I thought about it and realized what I had done. No use hiding from it. Trouble is...I don't agree with your arbitrary time frame.

I mean, hey....my arbitrary time frame might be modern football started when the spread offenses came into play. Oh look! My arbitrary time frame lets Florida out. Looks like I can tell everybody Florida has not won a championship in modern football history.

A lot of people would say that is the beginning of modern football, too. The spread offenses began a whole new era of football.


atlgator
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But I saw it and enjoyed it every bit as much as you enjoyed Florida's.




Original point was about comparing top 25 records to LSU. LSU gets the benefit of the doubt because they’ve won a title. It devolved into this argument about things beside the initial point.

One more point about these arbitrary time frames, if you consider the spread modern football, Florida was running the original iteration of the spread in the 2000’s with Leak and Tebow under Mullen, so that wouldn’t leave out Florida either.


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re: 5* S James Williams Opa-Locka (FL) HS
Am I in a recruiting thread?


DawgsLife
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He should know. He watched it.

Yes, I did! being old does have one or two perks!


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