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re: 5* RB Trey Sanders

Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:54 am to
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
5848 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:54 am to
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Now, that's just stupid...you were lucky to get it this year and it will be your last.



You sound just like an LSU fan for the last 10 years.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46666 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:56 am to
Big thing is that UGA and Bama are beginning a war of attrition in recruiting. Both are competing at a level hardly anyone else can match and it’s likely to stay that way until someone blinks (I.e. Saban retires). UGA has the advantage in coaching longevity. Of course, if Kirby keeps pulling in classes like these but we continue to fall short of a title it’ll start to hurt his chances of outlasting Saban
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11846 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:56 am to
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Nope...but what should scare you is the fact that UGA had the youngest team in the SEC and kicked Bama up and down the field with their best team in their history.


Not really scared of anything in CFB with Saban at the helm. Best team in history I will disagree with. That is the narrative the media ran with. Maybe the best offense for UA but team not really especially with our D this that would not rank top 5 under Saban. Lets also not forget we started what 7 true sophomores on offense that will only get better next year. If anybody should worry is UGA has now had the upper hand twice and could not close the deal.
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2048 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:58 am to
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I agree but some of your posters seem to think you will be able to emulate what UA is currently doing. That is not a reality. Smart will never be Saban and for that matter no one will. And before you say you know that I can go back and show many of your posters who think it is a reality. I do not care what Smart learned from Saban or what recruits you pull in each year.

The simple fact is what Saban has and is doing will never be repeated. UA currently is the luckiest fan base out there and yes we probably have a few believe this will never end but it will. But most are enjoying the ride but I doubt any coach or program will be able to ever sustain the success Saban is at UA. Does that mean Smart will not have UGA in contention more often then Richt, probably will but he will never be able to pull off what Saban has.

So Yes I applaud what Smart has done even though UGA has always gotten the talent especially instate and the fact that Smart has been more successful early on then other Saban coaches from the tree but what Saban has done will not be repeated.


To me, your response above is the type of "pile on" Bama fans love to do to UGA fans on messageboards. NO ONE believes that the end of Kirby's career will be as accomplished as Saban's career - Saban probably already is the greatest coach in the history of College Football if he didn't win another game. If Saban coaches 7 more years, he is likely to win another 2-3 more Natty's.

Kirby has done a great job at taking the "Saban Model" and building a program in a similar manner. It seems likely that Kirby will win multiple Nattys over the next 5-10 years. Kirby has already shown he can build a team on par w/ Bama and that has played out on the field - YES, we came up short but anyone being honest will acknowledge the rosters are close. Anyone honest can see that Georgia's teams were well prepared against Bama and had good game plans - the difference in both of those games was the in-game adjustments Bama made. Will Kirby get better there? Most likely YES.

UGA fans respect BAMA - the culture, the coach, the standard. Bama is the standard that Georgia has to set goals to reach.

I don't know why Bama fans have such a hard time with it. If I was a Bama fan, I would probably admire it in some ways as what Kirby is doing is a direct reflection on Saban/Bama.

Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46666 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:59 am to
Our coach has also been a HC for only 3 years to Saban’s 25+

Just like his players, Kirby is going to learn and get better as he gains experience.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11846 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:03 pm to
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Kirby has done a great job at taking the "Saban Model" and building a program in a similar manner. It seems likely that Kirby will win multiple Nattys over the next 5-10 years.


I said this that he should win a few titles every few years

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Anyone honest can see that Georgia's teams were well prepared against Bama and had good game plans - the difference in both of those games was the in-game adjustments Bama made. Will Kirby get better there? Most likely YES.



I said this as well but coaching on the field is the difference to get over that hump and Saban proved that when it counted. Yes Smart has plenty of time to learn and grow as a coach and probably will.

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I don't know why Bama fans have such a hard time with it. If I was a Bama fan, I would probably admire it in some ways as what Kirby is doing is a direct reflection on Saban/Bama.


I think most would agree but you have some that want to put Smart on the same level of Saban and just do not see that happening. That does not mean Smart can not beat UA with Saban at the helm or win a NC. Again UA got lucky with Saban. It became the perfect fit.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 12:05 pm
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46666 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:14 pm to
I think what UGA fans are actually intending is that Smart is OUR Saban. Relative to our program history, he is showing that he could go down as our GOAT and eclipse Richt and Dooley without any argument. That’s going to mean a title or two or three and dominance of our rivals.

Bama fans conflate this with us saying Smart IS Saban which I think we would all agree is a little ridiculous given their backgrounds and experience. The Bama dynasty that exists now isn’t going to be replicated. Ever. It’s the oddity formed by a blue blood program desperate after being on probation to pour money into a single persons vision to build something nobody had ever seen from a college program. THAT was good enough for the first three titles or so. What has come since is the equally unique ability of that individual to maintain their success and discipline without any sign of stopping.

Kirby can duplicate some of that success to be sure and that’s going to be golden to Georgia fans. But nobody is ever going to do what Bama has done with this current program
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2048 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:20 pm to
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I think what UGA fans are actually intending is that Smart is OUR Saban. Relative to our program history, he is showing that he could go down as our GOAT and eclipse Richt and Dooley without any argument. That’s going to mean a title or two or three and dominance of our rivals.

Bama fans conflate this with us saying Smart IS Saban which I think we would all agree is a little ridiculous given their backgrounds and experience. The Bama dynasty that exists now isn’t going to be replicated. Ever. It’s the oddity formed by a blue blood program desperate after being on probation to pour money into a single persons vision to build something nobody had ever seen from a college program. THAT was good enough for the first three titles or so. What has come since is the equally unique ability of that individual to maintain their success and discipline without any sign of stopping.

Kirby can duplicate some of that success to be sure and that’s going to be golden to Georgia fans. But nobody is ever going to do what Bama has done with this current program




Exactly. There is enough oxygen in the room to acknowledge that SABAN is the GOAT while still recognizing KIRBY is building something special and will get his over next several years and could have a mini-dynasty at some point if the current trend continues.

Those two acknowledgements can mutually exist.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64361 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:46 pm to
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I think with the success Smart is having and UGA combined with Mack Brown now at UNC is going to hurt CU down the road.



Clemson has also gotten a little bit lucky.

1- Desaun Watson went to Clemson because Richt didn't recruit him. There's 1 NC we gave them.

2- Lawrence went to Clemson because Georgia actually had two of the top QB's in the class which is not normal, and they weren't both going to go to UGA.

Imagine a Clemson without Deshaun and without Trevor. They are still a solid team, but not NC contenders.


Clemson will trend down and regress to the mean with Kirby's continued recruiting success. Clemson can't live off NC and SC recruits. Dabo need blue chips out of GA or his program is back to 8-5/9-3.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 12:48 pm
Posted by BreezyDawg
Trembling Earth
Member since Dec 2016
3320 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:49 pm to
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Lawrence went to Clemson because Georgia actually had two of the top QB's in the class which is not normal, and they weren't both going to go to UGA.


When Lawerence committed we hadn’t even offered Fields yet. We were all in on Lawrence. T Law was actually on his way to Clemson to tell them he was committing to the Dawgs and ended up leaving there committed to the tigers. Idk what kinda magic Dabo used, but it worked out for us anyway
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40164 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:13 pm to
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1- Desaun Watson went to Clemson because Richt didn't recruit him. There's 1 NC we gave them.


That kid was going to Clemson before he even hit high school. He had a family friend that was steering him that way since middle school.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64361 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:30 pm to
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That kid was going to Clemson before he even hit high school. He had a family friend that was steering him that way since middle school.


This is what the butthurt dawg fans said at the time, but the fact is Richt wasn't recruiting him.
Posted by Edawg
Jekyll Island
Member since Sep 2012
1297 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:35 pm to
Didn’t CMR recruit Watson as a TE? Maybe I’m remembering wrong. Or was that Cam?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64361 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:40 pm to
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Didn’t CMR recruit Watson as a TE? Maybe I’m remembering wrong. Or was that Cam?



Cam for sure, and I remember some whispers about that around Watson too, but Watson was the state record holder for QB's so it would make zero sense to recruit him as a TE. Unless he was recruiting him early as a TE before he broke all the QB records.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37762 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 2:37 pm to
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Kirby has already shown he can build a team on par w/ Bama and that has played out on the field -


Wut?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40164 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 2:46 pm to
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Kirby has already shown he can build a team on par w/ Bama and that has played out on the field -


Wut?


After watching the last two games you don't feel like UGA's roster is on par with Bama's?
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 2:49 pm to
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I think most would agree but you have some that want to put Smart on the same level of Saban and just do not see that happening. That does not mean Smart can not beat UA with Saban at the helm or win a NC. Again UA got lucky with Saban. It became the perfect fit.



SABAN 1ST YEARS IN COLLEGE:

1990 Toledo 9-2
1995 Michigan State 6-5-1
1996 Michigan State 6-6
1997 Michigan State 7-5
1998 Michigan State 6-6
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
4634 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:19 pm to
Last SEC championship? Cmon man, you are just straight talking outta your arse now. UGA has had a nice coup,elf years, but it is a little ridiculous the chest thumping you fan base has been doing. Bama is a on a 5 game winning streak against the Dawgs including ripping your hearts out for the natty and in the revenge game for the SEC, but somehow you still find a way to crow. Can’t you see how that is just a little ridiculous?
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:20 pm to
Like Nolan Smith said: "it's coming to an end"
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