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re: 2013 Auburn Recruiting Thread: Commits, Visits, Hot Prospects, etc...
Posted on 6/3/12 at 2:06 am to CapstoneGrad06
Posted on 6/3/12 at 2:06 am to CapstoneGrad06
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And in 2008 Jerrell Harris was the next great LB and Dont'a Hightower was an "athlete".
Are you comparing Harris to Jones?
Harris and Hightower were both 4*s. Also, one was ranked ILB and the other OLB. Either way, neither one of them were considered the game changer Julio or Reuben have been when they were in HS.
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Posted on 6/3/12 at 2:07 am to joeyb147
LB is the last position I'm worried about for Alabama. Corey Reamer was made into a solid LB for Christ's sake. Regardless, I'm not worried about Foster at this point. I'll be more concerned in December.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 2:13 am to MagillaGuerilla
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He could end up playing SAM, but it will be for his coverage ability, not his weight. Bama has played/started 2 LBs inside that weighed 220 or less under Saban, if they are talented enough, they'll be out there. Thomas will probably finish high school around 220, then be around 225-230 fall of his freshman year.
Many consider him to be similar to CJ Mosley, who may also get the starting job at SAM this year. But a majority of his snaps will come as an ILB because of Bama's usage of sub packages.
TBH, I don't know much about him except what has been posted on the scouting services. But I did read where he played DE as well as OLB in HS. And as we all should know, developing pass coverage skills while coming out from a DE sometimes leads to a large learning curve. Again, I don't know much about him, but from an outside view, he looks like a perfect OLB to me.
quote:I was talking about the initial push where he just got owned.
It pretty much came down to not being aware of a ball behind him.
quote:Do agree. I know you started said "fan club" but since I didn't post that much back before the season started on here, I will say I saw the same flashes of brilliance from him in 2009 that you did.
but Fairley was >>> to every Guard that year.
quote:Same here. I thought the other Gundams sucked compared to this one. I still like the burning fingers.... head explosion domination.
Only Gundam I ever liked. The Gundam with the boxing gloves was the tits.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 2:24 am to MagillaGuerilla
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. Bama has played/started 2 LBs inside that weighed 220 or less under Saban, if they are talented enough, they'll be out there.
I'm curious to who you are talking about here. And of course I mean ILBs, not just all LBs. The inside backers seem to be in the 240+ range under Saban. Unless they are just ridiculous in coverage as well, like Moseley. But he is still in the 230s.
I don't believe it's been anyone at 'Bama for the past 3 years. So in his first 2 years? Before he got his players in the system?
ETA: Anders & Jordan?
ETA2: Thomas reminds me of Alfy Hill from a couple of years ago.
This post was edited on 6/3/12 at 2:34 am
Posted on 6/3/12 at 2:34 am to joeyb147
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TBH, I don't know much about him except what has been posted on the scouting services. But I did read where he played DE as well as OLB in HS. And as we all should know, developing pass coverage skills while coming out from a DE sometimes leads to a large learning curve. Again, I don't know much about him, but from an outside view, he looks like a perfect OLB to me.
I had similar question when he was 1st brought up, I dropped Kwon Alexander as an example. Javy Mitchell is another that could fit the bill. Undersized positional players that use their speed in their game. Do they not drop in coverage because they can't or because what they do otherwise is more important?
But unlike Kwon, he has gotten good reviews in his coverage for being a "former" DE. Rivals even listed it a a reason they bumped him up. I hadn't heard anything about his coverage up until that point, and it's the only thing I'm going off of right now.
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I was talking about the initial push where he just got owned.
Ah. I think Fairley might have looked a little less herculean a more veteran starter, but it comes down it still being Fairley. And again, Steen is suppose to be the strongest person on the OL, yet get pushed like that(I know pure strength isn't the key to a good lineman, but damn).
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Do agree. I know you started said "fan club" but since I didn't post that much back before the season started on here, I will say I saw the same flashes of brilliance from him in 2009 that you did.
I'm not gonna pretend I'm the only one who saw something, unless you're TT
It was all there, just not put together. You'd see him beat a guard, wasn't quick enough to get to the QB. You'd see him make a potential good play, then mess it up with hand placement. Still have high respect for what Rocker did with him. One of the best defenders I've seen in my lifetime, and he'd played on the same team as one of the greatest offensive players in my time too
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Same here. I thought the other Gundams sucked compared to this one. I still like the burning fingers.... head explosion domination.
I just really couldn't get interesting in the storylines, I guess organized battles were more interesting than them fighting wars. I still skip them when I watch a webcast of shows.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 2:43 am to joeyb147
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I'm curious to who you are talking about here. And of course I mean ILBs, not just all LBs. The inside backers seem to be in the 240+ range under Saban. Unless they are just ridiculous in coverage as well, like Moseley. But he is still in the 230s.
Mosley was a bit light his freshman year, it was under 220 on the weight room board IIRC. The other one I had in mind is sort of a circumstantial happening, but he did still get the shot over several players "bigger" than him. Cory Reamer moved over from SAM in '09 to take a lot of snaps at WILL after Hightower went down.
Anders is one I truly forgot about, impressive he was able to play the edge at his size.
Not the greatest amount of evidence to prove my point, but I believe if he came in and excelled, he'd get playing time even with a stacked ILB corps. That has actually happened a lot.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 2:58 am to MagillaGuerilla
quote:Fair enough. I haven't renewed any of my subscriptions to those sites, but that does make it look promising for him. In my unpaid opinion, I still think he'll be perfect as an OLB, but like we discussed, no one can predict the future when it comes to recruiting.
But unlike Kwon, he has gotten good reviews in his coverage for being a "former" DE. Rivals even listed it a a reason they bumped him up. I hadn't heard anything about his coverage up until that point, and it's the only thing I'm going off of right now.
quote:Same here. I'm trying to remember the last time I've seen a 300+ DT have such an explosive step in the SEC with the power to compliment it. And as much hate as he gets, I loved his nastiness, no matter who he played for.
One of the best defenders I've seen in my lifetime
quote:You are correct. But he was a situational player as well, IIRC.
Mosley was a bit light his freshman year, it was under 220 on the weight room board IIRC.
quote:I thought he was in the 230s at that point?
Cory Reamer moved over from SAM in '09 to take a lot of snaps at WILL after Hightower went down.
quote:Don't disagree with you here. I hope Auburn can get to the point of a well stacked depth chart where seniority, or lack of bodies, doesn't prevent the best players from getting on the field. Of all the positions on the field, LB is the one I'm seriously worried about. Thank god for the Foster flip.
but I believe if he came in and excelled, he'd get playing time even with a stacked ILB corps. That has actually happened a lot.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 3:14 am to joeyb147
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Fair enough. I haven't renewed any of my subscriptions to those sites, but that does make it look promising for him. In my unpaid opinion, I still think he'll be perfect as an OLB, but like we discussed, no one can predict the future when it comes to recruiting.
It's plausible, Upshaw came in and packed on 50 pounds of muscle before he left. I shat bricks when I saw his high school photo recently, dude was tiny! Now he's got arms like a gorilla.
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Same here. I'm trying to remember the last time I've seen a 300+ DT have such an explosive step in the SEC with the power to compliment it. And as much hate as he gets, I loved his nastiness, no matter who he played for
I think Fletch Cox had his moments, but nothing close as consistently dominant. And I've said it several times, I rather them be nasty than cream puffs. It's a man's sport.
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You are correct. But he was a situational player as well, IIRC.
Like I said, it was a lot circumstantial stuff that I was hoping the conversation wouldn't diverge deeply into it.
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Don't disagree with you here. I hope Auburn can get to the point of a well stacked depth chart where seniority, or lack of bodies, doesn't prevent the best players from getting on the field. Of all the positions on the field, LB is the one I'm seriously worried about. Thank god for the Foster flip.
If they can't get LBs to come in with what they've been getting on the DL, something is wrong with them. Ray Lewis constantly bitched about not having the talent in front of him a few years back. Ravens draft Haloti Ngata, Lewis is now a happy mother fricker.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 11:40 am to MagillaGuerilla
Apparently all of the optimism from Volnation concerning Lawson was due to some new poster. Here's the latest:
They were positive Lawson was visiting this weekend, but he never showed. I doubt he ever even intended to visit this weekend.
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Poster on the VQ says he has a connection with Lawson coach, and that is where all this info was coming from. Now the poster has backtracked saying that he wasnt there today and misunderstood the texts he was receiving, but he say that the coach said not to worry cause the Vols are in Lawsons top 2.
They were positive Lawson was visiting this weekend, but he never showed. I doubt he ever even intended to visit this weekend.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 11:44 am to audodger
Sad, sad Volnation got trolled en masse.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 11:58 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I just saw where TideWarrior ran over there to point us out to them. He seems like the typical tidesporter.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:07 pm to MagillaGuerilla
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I'm not gonna pretend I'm the only one who saw something, unless you're TT
Huge casty on you, Maggie.
Do I need to bump thread during the 2010 offseason?
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:34 pm to joeyb147
Yeah that TideWarrior is a total tool. What thread did you see that in Joey?
This post was edited on 6/3/12 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:38 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Yeah that TideWarrior is a total tool. What thread did you see that in Joey?
The VN Carl Lawson is going to be UT lock thread.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:41 pm to joeyb147
The worst poster in the Alabama Recruiting Thread is TideSatchel. The other day he told me this:
I mean, have I ever claimed to be connected to the Auburn or Alabama programs? I have friends in high places, but I hardly ever go to them for recruiting news. I've made that pretty well known. I've also said countless times that I get most of my info from the Auburn sites on 247, Rivals, and ITAT. And I guess you're "whiny" if you disagree with what they say over there. You can even have a decent discussion.
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You're not connected, you have no unique insight, and you come across as an obnoxious, whiny poster pretty much every time you post in here.
I mean, have I ever claimed to be connected to the Auburn or Alabama programs? I have friends in high places, but I hardly ever go to them for recruiting news. I've made that pretty well known. I've also said countless times that I get most of my info from the Auburn sites on 247, Rivals, and ITAT. And I guess you're "whiny" if you disagree with what they say over there. You can even have a decent discussion.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:42 pm to audodger
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They were positive Lawson was visiting this weekend, but he never showed. I doubt he ever even intended to visit this weekend.
But, but, but...
UTk is the leader now, and Auburn won't end up with Liner OR Lawson!
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:43 pm to joeyb147
LOL looks like his invite to them was received well.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:45 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I find it pathetic that none of the Auburn insiders have given a hint to Reuben Foster flipping to Auburn.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:49 pm to TTsTowel
The Earnest Robinson thread on the Bunker is huge.
I guess I'll bring over something if nobody else has.
I guess I'll bring over something if nobody else has.
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:50 pm to TTsTowel
I see CFBFAN1121 posted this in the Alabama Recruiting Thread:
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"Playing time is really important, and Auburn has told me I can play when I get there," Robinson said. "I like how Auburn does the spread and gives more guys the chance to make plays. Alabama is more of a running team with one go-to receiver."
However, his recruitment did not end after his commitment to the Tigers, although Robinson thinks the latest push in his recruitment could have come out of spite.
"I think Alabama just wants me because I committed to Auburn," Robinson said. "They were not on me as much before I committed, then Lance Thompson told me that Auburn would not be good for me and that the Crimson Tide was the way to go."
Still, the rising senior wideout is expected to visit Tuscaloosa on Monday, leaving the door cracked open somewhat for the Crimson Tide to sneak in and switch Robinson from their hated rival.
"I am committed to Auburn, but you never know," Robinson said.
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