re: 2013 Auburn Recruiting Thread: Commits, Visits, Hot Prospects, etc...

Bama's D with Foster > Bama's D without Foster

Now it will in all likely hood be a very small difference, but you can't say that losing the best LB prospect in a decade won't have a detrimental effect on the team.

I have no clue, brah. I've asked BuccWild countless times without success.

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A great player will always make a great team better. I see what you're saying, but in a game where one play can make or break a season, saying otherwise is sorta dumb.

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But you also have to realize Bama wouldn't have a nobody there in his place. He may not be as touted as Foster has been, but he has the same opportunity to make the same play. The end result is up to chance, whether it be Ray Lewis or, since this is an Auburn thread, Josh Holland. Now they both may have different percentages of s/f, but no one can completely avoid failure.

Bama has a great chance at another elite LB in this class in Matt Thomas, with or without Foster. Again, not the heralded LB like Foster, but he's one of the best out there coming from the Miami area...

Rivals250 Pinson Valley (Ala.) and Auburn commit WR Earnest Robinson says he will visit Alabama on Monday. He remains firm to Auburn, but Alabama appears to be picking up their interest in Robinson since his commitment to Auburn.


The trade for Foster takes place Monday.

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But you also have to realize Bama wouldn't have a nobody there in his place. He may not be as touted as Foster has been, but he has the same opportunity to make the same play. The end result is up to chance, whether it be Ray Lewis or, since this is an Auburn thread, Josh Holland. Now they both may have different percentages of s/f, but no one can completely avoid failure.

Bama has a great chance at another elite LB in this class in Matt Thomas, with or without Foster. Again, not the heralded LB like Foster, but he's one of the best out there coming from the Miami area...

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So another great player will end up making the same plays as the best player at his position in a decade.

Somehow, that doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. That's like saying replacing Julio Jones with DeAndrew White will have no effect on your offense. You can't seriously believe this....

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I have no clue, brah. I've asked BuccWild countless times without success.

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Huh? Asked me what?

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Seeing that neither have played a down of collegiate football yet, it's kinda hard to say who will and who won't make the big plays. Hype is not a transferable trait on the field. Deserving of it or not, it's not gonna do him any good come spring practice.

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Don't disagree with that. But then, what's the point of following recruiting then? Why even be invested in RF's recruitment? Everybody's future is a toss-up. Just look at a couple of 5 stars that Saban first signed when he got to 'bama.

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And at the same time, it's easy to make that comparison after fact isn't it? With Julio in the NFL and White playing the part time role of the invisible man. But's it's not like Bama just replaced Julio with the same or better end result or anything...

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Should I try to make my point on something that has yet to occur? I figured by pointing out something that has been proven over time it would show something. You know, considering Julio was considered one of the best WRs to come out and White was considered to be a great WR, yet not elite. Will pointing out that a TF from Maryland beat out all the great OL players Saban has been recruiting over the previous 5 years help? Wasn't he considered one of the best OTs? You'd think with all that talent, that a TF wouldn't beat out the upperclassmen who were highly rated as well. But he probably won't make the team any better playing LT as one of the other guys lower on the depth chart.

havent heard from him might have and he is lurking dunno I'll call in the morning

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Don't disagree with that. But then, what's the point of following recruiting then? Why even be invested in RF's recruitment? Everybody's future is a toss-up. Just look at a couple of 5 stars that Saban first signed when he got to 'bama.

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I'm more in it for the actual info, not the rankings in what not. I'm invested in his recruitment since I saw his film freshman year and the fact he committed to Bama. I'm not gonna be mad in he comes to Bama and not start or contribute heavily his 1st year. Is there a chance he accomplishes both of those things instead? Certainly.

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Should I try to make my point on something that has yet to occur? I figured by pointing out something that has been proven over time it would show something. You know, considering Julio was considered one of the best WRs to come out and White was considered to be a great WR, yet not elite.

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I see the premise of your point, but the comparison of Julio and White to Foster and Thomas is different. Going by the classifications of Rivals(since in this case I have to), Julio was a top 5 player nationally, White was a top 70 player. Foster is a top 5 player, Thomas is a fringe top 10. The supposed gaps in talent are closer in the matter of the LBs.

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Will pointing out that a TF from Maryland beat out all the great OL players Saban has been recruiting over the previous 5 years help? Wasn't he considered one of the best OTs? You'd think with all that talent, that a TF wouldn't beat out the upperclassmen who were highly rated as well. But he probably won't make the team any better playing LT as one of the other guys lower on the depth chart.

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As you alluded to above, Tyler Love was a 5* that just enjoyed being a frat daddy more than being a football player. Fluker is was the only OT to be as prestigious in the recruiting cycles pre Cyrus, and even he was more projection than production.

And despite being this all everything recruit at LT, his lack of being in the starting lineup hinder Bama none. Instead, a "lesser" caliber player filled the hole and nothing but great things came out of it. That same player could have still played the position this season with the same result and kept Cyrus out of the lineup. But Bama switched to Center because they could, not because it was detrimental to the success of the OL. Bama's past Center wasn't that great, so it's not like Kellen Williams or someone could have done any worse.

So I guess having the luxury of having an elite player waiting in the wings doesn't hurt the success of the team. But I don't think anything he'll do this year will be superior in play to what the former starter did...