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re: YOU arrange the SEC, the way you like it...
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:07 pm to stapuffmarshy
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:07 pm to stapuffmarshy
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switch aubie and missouri and it's set, not that hard- contribute
Yeah, you really put a lot of thought into the whole rivalry issue. Whatever, I'm done with you.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:10 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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That's a great setup, but I have a question: would that be allowed under current NCAA rules?
no. rules only allow for 1 game to decide a championship of 2 divisions of 6 or more teams.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:10 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
geauxld
you have it correct.
in your version, no teams in the west are east of teams in the east.
all teams in the west are west of teams in the east.
perfect. And Bama gets to play UTk.
this is the correct answer. pass it on to Slive.
you have it correct.
in your version, no teams in the west are east of teams in the east.
all teams in the west are west of teams in the east.
perfect. And Bama gets to play UTk.
this is the correct answer. pass it on to Slive.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:10 pm to Indfanfromcol
quote:
DIVISION 1
Alabama
Tennessee
Auburn
Uga
Kentucky
Ole miss
Mississippi State
Division 2
LSU
Texas A&M
Florida
South Carolina
Missouri
Arkansas
Vandy
I'm guessing UGA is in Division 1? I had AU in the east mainly because of the UGA-AU rivalry game. Which meant UA had to go east, too.
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:11 pm to reb13
Honestly probably the happiest everybody is going to be about the divisions is the way it is set up now.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:12 pm to ottothewise
quote:
geauxld
you have it correct.
in your version, no teams in the west are east of teams in the east.
all teams in the west are west of teams in the east.
perfect. And Bama gets to play UTk.
this is the correct answer. pass it on to Slive.
Geographically correct, but I'm wondering if leaving Vandy in the east, and moving UK to the west might make for better balance?
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:13 pm to winyahpercy
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no. rules only allow for 1 game to decide a championship of 2 divisions of 6 or more teams.
That wasn't part of the question.
I set it the way it would be most competitive, while also allowing rivalries to stay intact.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:14 pm to winyahpercy
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only problems i see is Alabama would lose some traditional rival that they have a long history w/ like LSU, MSU or OM.
everything changes. if you want to put it all in stone, we cant ever change anything. rivalries will grow.
And Tex A&M will be a football factor in the west. If they have the right coach, they will compete for championships.
(And the west will win track every year).
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:15 pm to Alahunter
quote:
That wasn't part of the question
Well, I did think being possible under NCAA rules was a no-brainer. But I liked your setup, and who knows what the rules will be after this year?
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:18 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Get away from trying to divide it geographically and break up the teams in each state. Permanent opponents in parenthesis.
Division 1
Alabama (Auburn)
Arkansas (South Carolina)
Kentucky (Georgia)
LSU (Florida)
TAMU (Mizzou)
Ole Miss (MS State)
Tennessee (Vanderbilt)
Division 2
Auburn (Alabama)
Florida (LSU)
Georgia (Kentucky)
MS State (Ole Miss)
South Carolina (Arkansas)
Mizzou (TAMU)
Vanderbilt (Tennessee)
I believe most traditional rivalries would be intact.
Division 1
Alabama (Auburn)
Arkansas (South Carolina)
Kentucky (Georgia)
LSU (Florida)
TAMU (Mizzou)
Ole Miss (MS State)
Tennessee (Vanderbilt)
Division 2
Auburn (Alabama)
Florida (LSU)
Georgia (Kentucky)
MS State (Ole Miss)
South Carolina (Arkansas)
Mizzou (TAMU)
Vanderbilt (Tennessee)
I believe most traditional rivalries would be intact.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:18 pm to elposter
West:
ARK (AU)
LSU (UK)
MISS (UGA)
MISS ST (Vandy)
TAMU (UF)
MIZZOU (SCAR)
TENN (BAMA)
East:
BAMA
AU
FLORIDA
UK
Vandy
SCAR
UGA
ARK (AU)
LSU (UK)
MISS (UGA)
MISS ST (Vandy)
TAMU (UF)
MIZZOU (SCAR)
TENN (BAMA)
East:
BAMA
AU
FLORIDA
UK
Vandy
SCAR
UGA
This post was edited on 12/12/11 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:20 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
NORTH:
Missouri
Kentucky
West Virginia
North Carolina
EAST:
Florida
Georgia
Alabama
South Carolina
SOUTH:
Auburn
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Vanderbilt
WEST:
LSU
A&M
Arkansas
Tennessee
Missouri
Kentucky
West Virginia
North Carolina
EAST:
Florida
Georgia
Alabama
South Carolina
SOUTH:
Auburn
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Vanderbilt
WEST:
LSU
A&M
Arkansas
Tennessee
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:21 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Yes, in that scenario i had uga over in division 1 just to have thr only four teams that were complaining about permanent rivals in the same divison.
But like my first post and what alahunter put up, i like adding two teams and having four divisions the best. And. Even though there might be ncaa rules against it, doesn't mean it cant be changed. Would be a great idea imo to the right path to somewhat of a playoff system.
But like my first post and what alahunter put up, i like adding two teams and having four divisions the best. And. Even though there might be ncaa rules against it, doesn't mean it cant be changed. Would be a great idea imo to the right path to somewhat of a playoff system.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:22 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
quote:
SEC West
1) Arkansas
2) LSU
3) Mississippi
4) Mississippi State
5) Missouri
6) Texas A&M
7) Vanderbilt
quote:
TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:24 pm to wmr
SEC WEST
LSU
Missou
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Ole Miss
MS State
Mcnesse St.
Tulane
St. Mary's University for Women
SEC EAST
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Arkansas
USCe
Ark
A&M
LSU
Missou
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Ole Miss
MS State
Mcnesse St.
Tulane
St. Mary's University for Women
SEC EAST
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Arkansas
USCe
Ark
A&M
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:27 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Easy. Kid has to attend college in same state he graduated high school in. Instant parity.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:29 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Ok here is my issue with some of these suggestions (including mine): Both divisions have to be balanced, and at the same time allow rivalry games to continue.
To my mind, these five teams have to remain together:
1) Alabama
2) Auburn
3) Florida
4) Georgia
5) Tennessee
Each has two rivalry games with other teams on that list. The problem is, as has been pointed out, is that is five of the "traditional" powers in the SEC.
However, if you look at the current SEC standings, neither UF or UT are among the conference's strongest teams...at the moment.
Perhaps we should just ignore geography, and arrange divisions thusly:
SEC East
1) Alabama
2) Auburn
3) Florida
4) Georgia
5) Vanderbilt
6) Mississippi
7) Tennessee
SEC West
1) Arkansas
2) LSU
3) South Carolina
4) Mississippi State
5) Missouri
6) Texas A&M
7) Kentucky
Better top in the east, better middle and bottom in the west.
To my mind, these five teams have to remain together:
1) Alabama
2) Auburn
3) Florida
4) Georgia
5) Tennessee
Each has two rivalry games with other teams on that list. The problem is, as has been pointed out, is that is five of the "traditional" powers in the SEC.
However, if you look at the current SEC standings, neither UF or UT are among the conference's strongest teams...at the moment.
Perhaps we should just ignore geography, and arrange divisions thusly:
SEC East
1) Alabama
2) Auburn
3) Florida
4) Georgia
5) Vanderbilt
6) Mississippi
7) Tennessee
SEC West
1) Arkansas
2) LSU
3) South Carolina
4) Mississippi State
5) Missouri
6) Texas A&M
7) Kentucky
Better top in the east, better middle and bottom in the west.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:30 pm to elposter
West Side
Texas A&M
LSU
Mizzou
Miss. State
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Alabama
East Side
Auburn
South Carolina
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Florida
Georiga
Clemson
Texas A&M
LSU
Mizzou
Miss. State
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Alabama
East Side
Auburn
South Carolina
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Florida
Georiga
Clemson
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:32 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
West
A&M
Mizzou
LSU
Arky
MS St
OM
Bama
East
Auburn
UT
UK
UGA
USC
UF
Vandy
No constant opponents. Rotate 2 opposite division opponents each year.
A&M
Mizzou
LSU
Arky
MS St
OM
Bama
East
Auburn
UT
UK
UGA
USC
UF
Vandy
No constant opponents. Rotate 2 opposite division opponents each year.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 3:36 pm to genro
quote:trivia question: do you actually know where the mason dixon line is?
SEC Mason
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
LSU
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Texas A&M
SEC Dixon
Arkansas
Georgia
Kentucky
Missouri
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
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