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re: Yahoo's draft board top 15
Posted on 10/18/13 at 5:32 pm to Bench McElroy
Posted on 10/18/13 at 5:32 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:All three need a strong supporting cast to be good NFL QBs.
Manziel's the only SEC worth taking a chance on in the first round. He actually has the talent to turn around a bad franchise. Mettenberger and Murray might do okay if they have a strong supporting cast around them like the Texans have but they will never be franchise QBs in the NFL.
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Posted on 10/18/13 at 5:37 pm to JBeam
Those who think Manziel comes back need to wake up..
When Billy Liucci says that Manziel isn't coming back you can take it to the bank - the guy is the most delusional, incredibly slanted A&M person out there.
Manziel is gone. We will be without Matthews, Manziel, and Evans next year. However, Ced will probably stay and slide to LT. Kind of smart the way Sumlin uses that LT position to get linemen to come back. I figure Matthews probably made at LEAST a few million more by coming back and playing LT this year.
Ced wants to do the same.
When Billy Liucci says that Manziel isn't coming back you can take it to the bank - the guy is the most delusional, incredibly slanted A&M person out there.
Manziel is gone. We will be without Matthews, Manziel, and Evans next year. However, Ced will probably stay and slide to LT. Kind of smart the way Sumlin uses that LT position to get linemen to come back. I figure Matthews probably made at LEAST a few million more by coming back and playing LT this year.
Ced wants to do the same.
This post was edited on 10/18/13 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 10/18/13 at 5:39 pm to Bench McElroy
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Manziel's the only SEC worth taking a chance on in the first round. He actually has the talent to turn around a bad franchise. M
You continue to show you know nothing about qbs. JM throws a football like he does a baseball. His footwork is atrocious and he ran a hand times 4.7 coming out of high school.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 5:40 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:No he's not Rick.
And what do you have AJ compared to since he is a lesser qb than Mett?
Posted on 10/18/13 at 5:42 pm to JuiceTerry
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No he's not Rick.
Mett has more yards, yards/ game., tds , LESS int , higher qb rating. He is also far more physically gifted than AJ. HE HAS BETTER STATS WHILE PLAYING A HARDER SCHEDULE. There is nothing that says AJ is better than Mett but your bias.
Those are facts.
This post was edited on 10/18/13 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 10/18/13 at 5:52 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:He's a statue with a big arm. Mallett 2.0. AJ makes every throw as well, but he's way more mobile than Mett. You're just plain wrong on this, pal. You're basing everything on Mett so far this season. Look at both of their bodies of work. No way AJ is a lesser QB than Mett.
He is also far more physically gifted than AJ.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 5:54 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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JM throws a football like he does a baseball.
Yet he's completed 70% of his passes over his career. I think he'll be alright, considering Mett's well below that at 62%.
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His footwork is atrocious
What, are you judging him as a pocket passer? Because he isn't.. I know, he isn't as precise as Mett.
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he ran a hand times 4.7 coming out of high school.
Yet his lateral quickness makes 1st round DBs/LBs look like scrubs.. This post was edited on 10/18/13 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 10/18/13 at 6:05 pm to AUsteriskPride
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Yet his lateral quickness makes 1st round DBs/LBs look like scrubs..
He did shite against lsu last year.
I guess Tebow is gonna be a great NFL qb since his completion % was great in college. You clearly don't know the difference in cfb and pro football. Mo Claiborne was the best cb in all of cfb and he can't stay on the field in the NFL. The windows to throw the ball in the nfl are far far smaller than in cfb.
As far as not being a pocket passer, if JM can't move the chains from in the pocket, he won't make it in the NFL.
Don't give me Russel Wilson either. RUssel Wilson has damn near perfect mechanics and a strong arm( JM has neither ).
So stop running your dick sucker about things you are ignorant on.
This post was edited on 10/18/13 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 10/18/13 at 6:10 pm to JuiceTerry
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ook at both of their bodies of work. No way AJ is a lesser QB than Mett.
Yes he is and every single scout agrees with me. Again, Mett has played better defenses and has more yards, more tds, less int, more ypg, and a better qbr. .
These are facts. They aren't biased opinions like you are using. Last time I checked, being able to move in the pocket( which Mett is getting better at) is more important than being able to run with the ball.
Mett is bigger and stronger and proves to make better decisions with the ball this year.
As far a looking at bodies of work, those are team accomplishments. You saw AJ suck earlier this year when he didn't have all day to throw.
This isn't to down AJ , but he isn't a better qb than Mett this year. It's not debatable.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 6:14 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I actually really like AJ's ability. He is extremely accurate. That's his greatest tool. I actually put more into accuracy than arm strength. Who cares if you can throw 60 yard darts if you can't throw then where your wr can catch them. I think AJ is a great qb but up to this point, Mett has proves to be better than AJ.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 6:14 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I actually really like AJ's ability. He is extremely accurate. That's his greatest tool. I actually put more into accuracy than arm strength. Who cares if you can throw 60 yard darts if you can't throw then where your wr can catch them. I think AJ is a great qb but up to this point, Mett has proven to be better than AJ.
This post was edited on 10/18/13 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 10/18/13 at 6:22 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:You said AJ is a lesser QB. Not that Mett's stats are better this season. Name a big game Mett has won. Had the ball in his hand to beat Bama. Lost. Had the ball in his hand to beat Clemson. Couldn't make a 5 yard throw. Had the ball in his hand to beat UGA. Couldn't get it done. That's what separates the 2 QB's. AJ has won on the big stage.
This isn't to down AJ , but he isn't a better qb than Mett this year. It's not debatable.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 6:25 pm to JuiceTerry
I like Murray a LOT (obviously), but no way I'd take him in the first (or 2nd round) if I was a NFL GM.
I think Mett has the most NFL potential of the SEC QBs in this draft.
I think Mett has the most NFL potential of the SEC QBs in this draft.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 6:29 pm to crispyUGA
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I think Mett has the most NFL potential of the SEC QBs in this draft
Finally a voice of reason.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 6:29 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You clearly don't know the difference in cfb and pro football.
Ah, so Mett is going to be better in the NFL than college.. Awesome!
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The windows to throw the ball in the nfl are far far smaller than in cfb.
A guy like Manziel makes windows, he doesn't sit around and wait for the pocket to collapse. You're fricking retarded throwing Tebow into the conversation by the way, they are nothing alike.
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if JM can't move the chains from in the pocket, he won't make it in the NFL.
I never said he couldn't, but his strength is extending plays.
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So stop running your dick sucker about things you are ignorant on.
It's funny you feel so superior in football knowledge, because you make some fricking idiotic points a lot of the time. Posted on 10/18/13 at 6:31 pm to JuiceTerry
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You said AJ is a lesser QB. Not that Mett's stats are better this season. Name a big game Mett has won. Had the ball in his hand to beat Bama. Lost. Had the ball in his hand to beat Clemson. Couldn't make a 5 yard throw. Had the ball in his hand to beat UGA. Couldn't get it done. That's what separates the 2 QB's. AJ has won on the big stage.
Holy shite. This year Mett has proven to be a better qb than AJ. Hence AJ is a LESSER QB. this is a fact. Also , why are you bringing up LAST YEAR when he was a first year starter?we are talking about THIS YEAR. let me see if you can comprehend this again, METT is bigger , stronger and has made better decisions with the ball. Mett has more tds, LESS INT, more yards and a better qb rating. . Mett is a BETTER QB than AJ. DWI.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 6:37 pm to Bob Ag
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Yawn. Three in the top 15. No biggie.
3 in the top 13, no biggie.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 6:40 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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We've been through this. Ha ha isn't going top 15. He isn't physically imposing our fast.
He isn't physically imposing? He looks bigger this year. 6'1" 209lbs is what we list him at, I'd bet he's closer to 215.
Not fast? He flies up from a deep position and makes tackles in the run game all the time.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 6:41 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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And what do you have AJ compared to since he is a lesser qb than Mett?
AJ = Matt Ryan
Posted on 10/18/13 at 6:44 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Mett has more yards, yards/ game., tds , LESS int , higher qb rating. He is also far more physically gifted than AJ. HE HAS BETTER STATS WHILE PLAYING A HARDER SCHEDULE. There is nothing that says AJ is better than Mett but your bias.
Those are facts.
Stats make him better? Are you forgetting that AJ has only had an OL for like two games now? On top of that, his All World WR isn't playing like it. Some say injury. There are other rumors going around by reliable sources that we won't get into. Mett's had two NFL WRs this year, AJ's NFL WR isn't playing like it.
Mett has a bigger arm. That's really all he has over AJ except size.
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