re: WTF? Kiper's 1st Mock Draft has Manziel #1 to Texans

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You also accused him of "fighting a coach"

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My mistake pushing a coach.

I meant the only thing I brought up that wasn't fact.

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"failing to accept responsibility" and "blaming others for his mistakes."

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Both go under bad body language and I said that's what it looks like. Didn't say it was definitely happening.

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Are you just making up stuff?

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No. I haven't made up anything.

I was incorrect on a fight between Manziel and a GA. Call it a confrontation since Manziel just shoved him then.

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These mocks are useless until the combine

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Very good point.

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I would either pick up that O-lineman from A&M or trade for more picks.

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Texans already have a great LT though.

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Aggie fans on here seem to believe they won't take a step back without him?

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I think we won't win a single SEC game ever again

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Average SEC Ds shut him down

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he will never be a great NFL QB. NEVER.

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bookmarked. Will bump after his first SB

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I just don't see it. Aggie fans on here seem to believe they won't take a step back without him? Average SEC Ds shut him down. I'll say it again, he will never be a great NFL QB. NEVER.

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Future flop. He got away with a very average arm in college. Not in the NFL. If he actually goes in the first round, he'll be a bust.

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- As many have surmised via his tape, nearly 44% of Mike Evans’ catches are from coming back to the QB.

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Interesting...

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I just don't see it. Aggie fans on here seem to believe they won't take a step back without him? Average SEC Ds shut him down. I'll say it again, he will never be a great NFL QB. NEVER.

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To say a college QB will be a bust ain't a hard leap to make. Most of them will be. tbh how many Hiesman QBs turned out to be great? How many college QBs turn out to be great? Hardly any college QBs even make it to the NFL and then you have, what, maybe 5 or 6 a year that will be great when its all said and done? That being said, I think, and I'm kicking myself for admitting it, Manziel will be fairly decent. Not great but better than average. Also, if you don't think A&M takes a step back with them losing your great o-lineman, your receiver and your QB, then you need to take off the rose colored glasses. Also I don't remember any average D's shutting down Manziel for a whole game, that's crazy and who cares who he threw it to, it was caught. Maybe he doesnt make that throw if he doesn't have confidence in his WR.





 

I did mean on the field. Why the hell would you say that Manziel is not mentally tough on the field? The guy is a rock. He never gets rattled. He never quits. He talks shite, but so what? Lots of players talk shite. That's no indication of a lack of mental toughness. Mentally weak players quit, and start fighting with their teammates, and get scared at the critical moment. Manziel is the opposite of that, in every regard.

Agreed. I think the kid is a self-centered douche, but there isn't an ounce of quit in him.

Manziel does not have an "average arm". Can he throw it 70 yards? No, but by that standard John Daly should have won every golf tournament he ever played in. Drive for show, put for dough. Manziel has a strong arm but more than that he has a very accurate arm.

Many LSU folks point to their games with him (which is valid on several levels) but those were also the 2 worst games of his career and he had a broken thumb in the 2nd one which greatly affected his accuracy. I don't think you can point to those games as the picture of Manziel any more than you can point to one of his best games as the entire picture either.

The truth is that teams tend to draft the highest potential guy even if he may blow up. No one wants to miss on Michael Jordan and you are more "forgiven" by reaching for that guy than passing.

I also think Manziel is going to kill it at the combine. He is an amazing interviewer as anyone that has watched him can see. He will do well on the Wunderlic (he won't get a 50 but he will be respectable). He will likely be one of the faster QB's. He will do well in the QB drills. His negatives will be his physical measurables and I have no idea what his weight training scores or other athletic scores will be. For QB's though they advance a LOT based on those interviews and Wunderlic. A team wants to draft a smart guy that comes across as a leader and can handle the pressure of being a Top Draft Pick.