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re: Would I be in the minority thinking Dabo will never come to Alabama?
Posted on 4/19/18 at 1:36 pm to Tillman
Posted on 4/19/18 at 1:36 pm to Tillman
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You've conceded Clemson generally has competitive teams.
At least the past few years. Not sure if there's enough history there to say "generally".
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 1:38 pm to pvilleguru
lol ok but as i've pointed out it was a small military college for half of its existence.
the school president and AD in 1989 at Clemson derailed one of the top programs of the 1980s when they fired Danny Ford. The school president was pretty anti-athletics.
As long as Clemson has school president and adminstration that is pro-athletics, it will be one of the best programs. It will have some down years like any program does.
the school president and AD in 1989 at Clemson derailed one of the top programs of the 1980s when they fired Danny Ford. The school president was pretty anti-athletics.
As long as Clemson has school president and adminstration that is pro-athletics, it will be one of the best programs. It will have some down years like any program does.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 1:41 pm to Tillman
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As long as Clemson has school president and adminstration that is pro-athletics, it will be one of the best programs.
I wouldn't say that. I don't care how pro-athletics you administration is. One or two bad hires can do at least a decade of damage.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 1:43 pm to pvilleguru
ok
I think 90s gonna be much better for Clemson if they didn't fire Danny Ford, even if Ford resigned for some reason in 1991 or so.
Clemson did win an ACC title in the early 90s with their next coach though.
I believe Tommy West was hired because he had worked with Danny Ford. That was Clemson's worst era in last 50 years or so.
I think 90s gonna be much better for Clemson if they didn't fire Danny Ford, even if Ford resigned for some reason in 1991 or so.
Clemson did win an ACC title in the early 90s with their next coach though.
I believe Tommy West was hired because he had worked with Danny Ford. That was Clemson's worst era in last 50 years or so.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 2:36 pm to Tillman
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CSA's include a larger area than MSA.
OK
But to get the CSA they have to add 2 MSA's (Metros) and 3 msa's (micros) so it is really not the same demographics, to illustrate take the 60 to 80 miles between the "golden triangle" of Louisville KY, Lexington KY, and Cincinnati OH (NKY)
#29 2.2 Million = Cincinnati MSA
#45 1.3 Million = Louisville MSA
#106 .5 Million = Lexington MSA
That CSA (not counting numerous micro's in-between is about 4 million) but to say any of those 3 primary cities are like the others is crazy talk.
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Sometimes people present Clemson as a place with essentially nothing.
I would say some is more like many. Look we get you are proud to be a Tater and all but your really do need to get out more. Your views (albeit it mostly Google Earth) are extremely provincial. The fact you think...
Harvard academics = Clemson academics
Alabama football = Clemson football
Next you will probably say
Kentucky basketball = Clemson basketball
If you are an alter, at least that is funny
If you really are a Tater fan then it is just plain sad.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:04 pm to Cheese Grits
I know Clemson has a better rep in engineering and architecture than Harvard. Harvard doesn't offer undergrad business programs. Harvard doesn't have an agricultural college.
That's a lot of programs yet you say Harvard, a college you didn't attend, is better than Clemson, a college you didn't attend.
Moreover, Harvard is a very expensive and a small university compared to Clemson. Only so many students are going to get accepted there given its small size.
Do you review and compare restaurants you didn't eat at?
It is crazy a person who didn't attend any SEC school but spends a lot of time talking about SC women's basketball is telling me I need to get out more.
The only places that I've looked at on Google maps streetview are places I have not been to. A redneck Clemson fan the other day tried to say my knowledge of Charleston comes from Google maps, even though I lived in Charleston. I was right about that topic and he was wrong.
That's a lot of programs yet you say Harvard, a college you didn't attend, is better than Clemson, a college you didn't attend.
Moreover, Harvard is a very expensive and a small university compared to Clemson. Only so many students are going to get accepted there given its small size.
Do you review and compare restaurants you didn't eat at?
It is crazy a person who didn't attend any SEC school but spends a lot of time talking about SC women's basketball is telling me I need to get out more.
The only places that I've looked at on Google maps streetview are places I have not been to. A redneck Clemson fan the other day tried to say my knowledge of Charleston comes from Google maps, even though I lived in Charleston. I was right about that topic and he was wrong.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:08 pm to Tillman
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Harvard doesn't offer undergrad business programs.
Yea but even a non business undergrad degree from Harvard will most likely get you more interviews/looked at more from the Top Hedge Funds and Wall Street bank than a business degree from a lot of schools
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:08 pm to Tillman
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It is crazy a person who didn't attend any SEC school
What are you talking bout???
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:10 pm to I Bleed Garnet
You can't say Harvard has a better undergrad business program than Clemson. If I was interested in business, I'd rather take business courses than liberal arts courses.
I think generally the harvard grads hired on wall street will have a MBA in business.
I think generally the harvard grads hired on wall street will have a MBA in business.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:11 pm to Tillman
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You can't say Harvard has a better undergrad business program than Clemson.
No because it doesn't have it.
But Goldman Sachs will look at a resume with a Math Degree from Harvard over a Business Degree from Clemson.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:12 pm to I Bleed Garnet
I dno't think there is any evidence of that.
I'm sure IVy League people favor other Ivy League people. Your assumption is everybody in hiring positions is a Harvard brown nosing fanboy like you. That's not real life.
Cheesegrits had never heard of CSA. He's the same guy asserting Harvard is a better university than Clemson.
I'm sure IVy League people favor other Ivy League people. Your assumption is everybody in hiring positions is a Harvard brown nosing fanboy like you. That's not real life.
Cheesegrits had never heard of CSA. He's the same guy asserting Harvard is a better university than Clemson.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:14 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Grits did not attend a SEC university and he does not appear to be a fan of any specific SEC university. He is a fan of SEC teams generally.
He makes dumb analogies. Clemson football has done better over time than Clemson basketball. He is trying to equate me saying Clemson football is just as good a job for a headcoach as Bama to saying that Clemson basketball is as good a job as Kentucky.
I think winning at Clemson in basketball is very tough.
If Clemson had won two national titles in basketball and had won ACC numerous times and routinely beat UNC and Duke, I absolutely would say Clemson as good as Kentucky for a coach.
He makes dumb analogies. Clemson football has done better over time than Clemson basketball. He is trying to equate me saying Clemson football is just as good a job for a headcoach as Bama to saying that Clemson basketball is as good a job as Kentucky.
I think winning at Clemson in basketball is very tough.
If Clemson had won two national titles in basketball and had won ACC numerous times and routinely beat UNC and Duke, I absolutely would say Clemson as good as Kentucky for a coach.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:16 pm to Tillman
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I dno't think there is any evidence of that.
Yes there is.
The term used is "target school"
I know from experience.
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Your assumption is everybody in hiring positions is a Harvard brown nosing fanboy like you. That's not real life.
At Certain places in certain positions
Lets say High Touch Sales Trading at GS. It's very true.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:20 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Wall Street is close to the Ivy League schools. That's why they hire a lot of those graduates.
It is never a bad idea to go to college in the region of the country that you want to live in.
If you want to live in the Carolinas and Georgia, a Clemson degree is gold.
It is never a bad idea to go to college in the region of the country that you want to live in.
If you want to live in the Carolinas and Georgia, a Clemson degree is gold.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:21 pm to Tillman
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Grits did not attend a SEC university
You sure?
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he does not appear to be a fan of any specific SEC university. He is a fan of SEC teams generally.
Whats wrong with that?
Don't be talking smack about CG. HES A TREASURE!
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:24 pm to Tillman
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Wall Street is close to the Ivy League schools. That's why they hire a lot of those graduates.
It is never a bad idea to go to college in the region of the country that you want to live in.
If you want to live in the Carolinas and Georgia, a Clemson degree is gold.
Agreed.
But also those schools are prestigious.
Seton Hall is close too but no one is looking them right out of college.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:28 pm to I Bleed Garnet
i think reason they are considered prestigious is they are the oldest colleges in the country and a lot of famous people went to them.
they are also very small so can be very selective. Clemson and SC could be more selective if they reduce enrollment and didn't have to take a majority of in state kids.
There's nothing impressive about being selective if the college is small and private.
if you can prove that Harvard's professors are better than Clemson's professors and/or prove that a majority of employers would not consider hiring a Clemson grad over a Harvard grad, I'll be happy to agree with you.
I don't think most employers defer to US News rankings when hiring people.
Clemson has one of the largest engineering programs in the country. I think it is 20th largest or so. It has one of the highest percentage of students majoring in a STEM field. If you don't think Clemson has a great rep with employers, you kidding yourself homey. lol
they are also very small so can be very selective. Clemson and SC could be more selective if they reduce enrollment and didn't have to take a majority of in state kids.
There's nothing impressive about being selective if the college is small and private.
if you can prove that Harvard's professors are better than Clemson's professors and/or prove that a majority of employers would not consider hiring a Clemson grad over a Harvard grad, I'll be happy to agree with you.
I don't think most employers defer to US News rankings when hiring people.
Clemson has one of the largest engineering programs in the country. I think it is 20th largest or so. It has one of the highest percentage of students majoring in a STEM field. If you don't think Clemson has a great rep with employers, you kidding yourself homey. lol
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:39 pm to pvilleguru
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One or two bad hires can do at least a decade of damage.
I think that is why so many Clemson fans are worried.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:44 pm to rockiee
lol, it is Alabama fans who keep talking about who their next coach is going to be.
i have no reason to believe Clemson won't be able to hire a good coach after Dabo leaves or retires. If it doesn't work out, then the coach will be fired and somebody else gets a shot.
WHen Bama hired Saban, they had no idea he was going to win 5 natties in 10 years. I bet there were a lot of Bama fans who questioned that hire at the time b/c his stint with Miami wasn't very good. lol
i have no reason to believe Clemson won't be able to hire a good coach after Dabo leaves or retires. If it doesn't work out, then the coach will be fired and somebody else gets a shot.
WHen Bama hired Saban, they had no idea he was going to win 5 natties in 10 years. I bet there were a lot of Bama fans who questioned that hire at the time b/c his stint with Miami wasn't very good. lol
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:57 pm to Tillman
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Clemson's professors and/or prove that a majority of employers would not consider hiring a Clemson grad over a Harvard grad, I'll be happy to agree with you.
I didnt say majority of Employers, I just used one industry.
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If you don't think Clemson has a great rep with employers, you kidding yourself homey. lol
I didnt say all employers. I just used one industry.
Which it doesn't, but we don't either so I'm not saying WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU
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