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re: Would anybody hire Freeze if he is fired after this season?
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:17 pm to thirdlawson
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:17 pm to thirdlawson
I don’t care how bad auburn does this season they can’t continue to keep firing coaches every 2 or 3 years.they need to suck it up and let him build their program or they will never be relivent for a long time.freeze has been successful in the sec and will be again IF the auburn admin and fans give him support.
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:29 pm to RGT
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I don’t care how bad auburn does this season they can’t continue to keep firing coaches every 2 or 3 years.
You don't frick with tradition in the SEC.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:28 pm to RGT
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freeze has been successful in the sec
Has he really though? In five seasons at Ole Miss he went: 7-6, 8-5, 9-4, 10-3, 5-7.
Only once did he have less than 4 losses. His best finish was second in the SEC west. The other years he finished 3rd, 5th twice and 7th. He got Ole Miss put on probation that crippled them for years. Due to vacated wins, his official record there is 12-25. On the field he went 3-2 against rival MSU, 1-4 against rival LSU, and 2-3 against Alabama.
Is that success?
He got the Auburn job because a pass bounced off a helmet for a fluke touchdown against Alabama.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 4:57 pm to captdalton
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In five seasons at Ole Miss he went: 7-6, 8-5, 9-4, 10-3, 5-7.
One thing this post does not show that deserves mentioning is that we were Missouri baseball bad coming of 2011. The first 3 years were nothing short of a miracle turn around. His one weak spot was defensive recruiting, which started to show in 2015 and came full force in 2016 leading to the collapse.
That being said, a previous poster alluded to, the game has caught up to his offense. If Arnold can't come in and get the job done this year, I expect he'll be fired and will probably join ESPN.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:02 pm to ukraine_rebel
In the four years prior to Freeze arriving, Ole Miss had two 9-4 seasons. Freeze’ two best seasons were 9-4 and 10-3.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:56 pm to captdalton
Don’t quote me our records. Go watch the tape from 2011!
This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 4/21/25 at 7:31 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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Did you ever play Stratego? If you did, you may remember that the most powerful piece on either side was the Marshal. The Marshal would defeat any other non-Bomb unit, with one exception - the Spy. The Spy was the weakest piece on the board and could not defeat any other unit, except for the Marshal. Its only function was to be the kryptonite of the strongest piece in the game.
That's Hugh Freeze - the Spy of college football. His one claim to fame was that he could defeat the Marshal, a.k.a. Nick Saban. But where does the Spy go when the Marshal has retired? What else can he hang his hat on?
He can go back to Ole Miss after Kiffin leaves to a much bigger job.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 7:40 pm to TheFourHorsemen
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FourHorsemen
obsessed.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 7:44 pm to MtVernon
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Would anybody hire Freeze if he is fired after this season?
Ole Miss in heartbeat.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 7:49 pm to TheFourHorsemen
He hasn’t done shite here and the most skilled team he had at Ole Miss went 5-7, so it seems to me that he can’t develop talent. Freeze can recruit his arse off, but the onfield coaching and game preparation have been wildly subpar. He was billed as an offensive guru, yet the offense is regressing and somehow Payton Thorne looked worse after a year in the system.
This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 4/21/25 at 7:57 pm to ukraine_rebel
My point is that Freeze, other than beating Alabama twice, one of them fluky as heck, did not have more success than many other Ole Miss coaches. He did not have any more success than David Cutcliffe, Houston Nutt, and has not had as much success as Lane Kiffin. It isn’t like Ole Miss never had 8, 9 or even 10 win seasons. They were just inconsistent and scattered in there were some 2, 3, and 4 win seasons.
For example by decade:
2000-2009: one 10 win season, two 9 win seasons, three 7 win seasons (winning record 6 out of 10 seasons).
2010-2019 (includes the 5 year Freeze era): one each 7, 8, 9, 10 win seasons (winning record 4 out of 10 seasons)
2020-2024: one 11 win season, two 10 win seasons, one 8 win season (winning record 4 out of 5 seasons)
Freeze was not head and shoulders better than Cutcliffe, Nutt, or Kiffin. I would actually rank Freeze 4th among that group. Freeze had the best recruiting classes. But he counterbalanced that by being a shitty actual football coach. And his parting gift to Ole Miss was probation and Matt Luke.
For example by decade:
2000-2009: one 10 win season, two 9 win seasons, three 7 win seasons (winning record 6 out of 10 seasons).
2010-2019 (includes the 5 year Freeze era): one each 7, 8, 9, 10 win seasons (winning record 4 out of 10 seasons)
2020-2024: one 11 win season, two 10 win seasons, one 8 win season (winning record 4 out of 5 seasons)
Freeze was not head and shoulders better than Cutcliffe, Nutt, or Kiffin. I would actually rank Freeze 4th among that group. Freeze had the best recruiting classes. But he counterbalanced that by being a shitty actual football coach. And his parting gift to Ole Miss was probation and Matt Luke.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:01 pm to TheFourHorsemen
he would self actualize on Maslow's pyramid
he would want a TV job at first, and then burn through that
then he'd want TCU if open at some point, and if not, then a 1-AA like Samford, Houston Christian, Charleston Southern...
maybe even Mississippi College just for one more go with the Mississippi flavor
he would want a TV job at first, and then burn through that
then he'd want TCU if open at some point, and if not, then a 1-AA like Samford, Houston Christian, Charleston Southern...
maybe even Mississippi College just for one more go with the Mississippi flavor
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:41 pm to DyeHardDylan
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He was billed as an offensive guru, yet the offense is regressing and somehow Payton Thorne looked worse after a year in the system.
Hmmmm...
Payton Thorne 2023:
61.1 comp%, 1755 yards, 16 TDs, 11 INTs
Payton Thorne 2024:
62.8 comp%, 2713 yards, 21 TDs, 9 INTs
Worse? No... but his turnovers were very untimely
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