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re: Would any "real" Clemson Fan Disagree With Watson & Hopkins?
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:25 pm to SCLibertarian
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:25 pm to SCLibertarian
quote:so that's the only place in the entire country it could be built? when people say think outside the box, you must nope.
Without John C. Calhoun, Clemson University doesn't exist.
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:30 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
who cares this is an SEC board.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:35 pm to rebelrouser
You should care because SPORTS is being used for all of this.
SEC included.
If you keep burying your head, at some point they will bury you completely over SOCIALISM. This isn't a race issue. It's a tactic used by socialists and they are creating a major divide.
SEC included.
If you keep burying your head, at some point they will bury you completely over SOCIALISM. This isn't a race issue. It's a tactic used by socialists and they are creating a major divide.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:39 pm to arcalades
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so that's the only place in the entire country it could be built? when people say think outside the box, you must nope.
The land where Clemson now sits belonged to John C. Calhoun. He left it to his daughter, who was married to Thomas Green Clemson. He died in 1888 and the university was founded in 1889. And if you knew anything about the history of South Carolina, you would know that its founding only passed by 1 vote in the General Assembly, specifically because of the influence of the Tillman faction. Just one year later, Ben Tillmam would be elected governor of SC. This faction's influence decreased in later years, so it's safe to say had Calhoun not bequeathed the land to his daughter and son-in-law, the likelihood of Clemson existing today would be small.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:55 pm to SCLibertarian
All that is neither here nor there. Calhoun, then Tillman will be thrown under the bus to save the Clemson name. That won't be enough to save it though. Harvey Gant will probably end up with his name on the school.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:29 pm to FredBear
You nailed it! Most of those crying racism and simply leveraging for power and more power! How can anyone that has been given do much privilege cry racism?
Black privilege is a real thing.
Black privilege is a real thing.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:35 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
I'm all for anything that hurts Clemson's program and their recruiting in Georgia.
We should be reminded of their racist past as much as humanly possible.
We should be reminded of their racist past as much as humanly possible.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:36 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Everyone's beef is with the NFL, NOT the NCAA.
It's the NFL's collective bargaining agreement that keeps elite players in school for 3 years. The NCAA has zero control of that agreement.
That is the argument of a jealous playa hatin' a-hole
The NFL is immaterial to this discussion, the Top65-70 FB playing colleges generate Billions each season, the players in College generate that money on the College Level, therefore they deserve more than just the base scholly, the NFL has nothing to do with the Billions that the Top70 schools gross in college
If you want it your way, then treat the Coaches the same as the players, CAP THEIR PAY, and then tell them if they want more money then go to the NFL
If you tell it to the players, tell it to the coaches
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:21 pm to ValDawgsta
It's not really all that mind blowing. Despicable? Yes. Mind blowing? No.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:27 pm to FredBear
Yeah moron they actually earn it with their play on the field.
It isn't free.
It isn't free.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:06 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
Should the Gamecocks consider renaming their mascot who is named after Thomas Sumter “The Carolina Gamecock”?
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In 1781 General Thomas Sumter offered one slave to each white citizen who joined as a private soldier for ten months and as many as three grown and one small slave to those who joined as colonels.”
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 6/9/20 at 9:10 pm to tigeroarz1
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All of that is even more reason to remove the name. With the current momentum that BLM has I can see it happening very soon.
What about the Clemson name itself?
Coming from a Confederate Officer and slave owner.
You would have no problem with the name change in that instance or only in the other ones?
Not going to answer the question Tigeroarz?
Posted on 6/10/20 at 7:53 am to Priapus
quote:In my previous post I was referring to Tillman. From everything we know he was an awful dude. The building was named Old Main until sometime in the 1900s. Name it back to that. I don’t care what they name the honors college. The town name of Calhoun existed before there was a town of Clemson in the 1900s. No one seems to miss that. I don’t think it was a huge deal. No, I don’t think Clemson University should be renamed. Just as you would not want The Carolina Gamecock to be removed as a mascot. It’s impossible to make everyone happy. I’m not sure where it stops. Rename anything Washington and Jefferson because they owned slaves?
Not going to answer the question Tigeroarz?
Posted on 6/10/20 at 8:32 am to mattfromnj
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I'm beginning to see why Nuk was traded to the Cards. Looks like he got into Watson's head.
I didn't see either of them defending their Coach who had a tremendous impact n being where they are now. Cherry-picking your causes seems very selfish.
He's had problems with Clemson for a while now (Hopkins). He used to say it was because he felt disrespected while he was there having to be the second guy behind Watkins and didn't think he got the ball enough I guess. Then he tried to say it was a paying the players issue and how they were exploited, now this
Good observation. I actually recall him being pissed because he wasn't permitted a press conference to announce his departure to the NFL.
This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 8:33 am
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:45 pm to Lonnie Utah
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They don't want to.
Well, they just did. Good for them.
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