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re: With year 2 over lets re-rank the HC hires of 2013

Posted on 1/3/15 at 11:40 am to
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 11:40 am to
Depth is the biggest hurdle at the moment.

KC


I wish we'd pay more attention to KC area recruits, there's some good talent up there.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 11:43 am to
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So, blame your AD.


His statement had nothing to do with blame...so? It was simply a fact that Bert came into a big mess when he took the job.

Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 11:48 am to
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Rank them how you want, but I think in the long run, Bert will prove to be the best hire.


Bert has a make or break year, next year. He will have to beat AU,UA or A&M and finish in the top 3 in the West, to keep the heat off. The two shutout wins against teams reeling, helped him this year. But looking back, those were not as impressive as some want to make out.
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15237 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 11:53 am to
Yeah Bert did inherit a mess, which none of it was his fault obviously. I was impressed with the hire when it happened. I then sat here shaking my head and laughing at all the Rantards dissing Bert when he struggled at the beginning.

This isn't the NFL folks where you can turn around a team in one season, most incidents, it takes time to rebuild a college program when it's a dumpster fire. Bert is ahead of schedule in my opinion. And this is coming from someone that wants Arky to stay down since we recruit alot of the same players, geographically close, and play you every year now.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 11:54 am to
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The two shutout wins against teams reeling, helped him this year. But looking back, those were not as impressive as some want to make out.



pitiful.


When was the last time Auburn shutout any SEC teams while Gus was on staff?
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15237 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 11:56 am to
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But looking back, those were not as impressive as some want to make out.


You may be right, but I disagree, I think he turned the corner and will be a force to be reckoned with.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14268 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 11:59 am to
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Where do you get the idea Bert inherited a mess. He just followed a coach who was a mess. Petrino had good recruiting classes. You dumb.


Maybe but half those recruiting classes were gone, we took a lot of thugs.

Bielema inherited a disaster, he's done an incredible job to be at 7 wins this year.

Gus inherited a gold mine and only won one more game.
Posted by Latarian
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:00 pm to
what other choice did he have? it was mid April
Posted by DarrionFrmArk
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:01 pm to
Shutting out two SEC West opponents in back-to-back weeks is very impressive.....
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

quote:
The two shutout wins against teams reeling, helped him this year. But looking back, those were not as impressive as some want to make out.



pitiful.


When was the last time Auburn shutout any SEC teams while Gus was on staff?


Berts style of play will prevent blowouts, and he kept the losses close (minus the AU Game). But if you looked at their schedule, the mainly played against QBs that were struggling at the time. See UA, LSU and Ole Miss games. Running the ball will help against teams that have a hard time scoring, but it will not get you over the hump alone. They have to find a passing game.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:05 pm to
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Shutting out two SEC West opponents in back-to-back weeks is very impressive.....



LSU did not have a QB and was coming off the AL loss. Ole Miss was coming off the AU loss, with their best WR injuried and Bad Bo.
Posted by DarrionFrmArk
Member since Dec 2014
1187 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:06 pm to
Auburn was a preseason top 5 team this year. They finished with 5 losses. They went 3-5 in their final 8 games. Not to mention, losing to a team coached by Barry Alvarez. Seriously Barry Alvarez....
This post was edited on 1/3/15 at 12:09 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46470 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:07 pm to
3 other head coaches listed in the OP

Mostly mad insecure auburn fans in the thread
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
7825 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:08 pm to
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Shutting out two SEC West opponents in back-to-back weeks is very impressive.....



I agree, Bert would have to be number one on my list.

The thing about Gus, Auburn already had the athletes that he recruited to run his system when he left for Arkansas State. I think Gus is a good coach, but that offense will always have it's limitations. If Muschamp gets the defense turned around good things can happen.

As far as Butch Davis goes, we'll find out next year when he has a full summer practice and roster with his players.

I think the Stoops are the most over-rated bunch of average coaches in college football. Bob Stoops benefited from a weak Big 12 for 15 years. The win over Alabama last year doesn't change that. They have been blown out in more bowl games than any other team in country that is held in such high regard. Now that the Big 12 has other powers, combined with the loss of Venables to Clemson, they have been exposed. Long story short, everybody jumped on Mark Stoops 5 win Kentucky team earlier this year, we all knew they were a product of a crap schedule. Kentucky will squeak out a win over somebody good every now and then, but Kentucky will never be more than a 7 or 8 win team. Mark Stoops is nothing special.

Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:10 pm to
Other than a disappointing season for Auburn, how do any of the posts seem insecure or mad? They are merely stating facts.
Posted by ArmyHogs
Your mom's house
Member since Feb 2012
9256 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:12 pm to
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Auburn was a preseason top 5 team this year. They finished with 5 losses. They went 3-5 in their final 8 games. Not to mention, losing to a team coached by Barry Alvarez. Seriously Barry Alvarez


So glad we didn't tank the program with that hire.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111562 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:13 pm to
Gus

Bert-Jones

Stoops


Will rerank after next year.
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
6719 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:14 pm to
Neither of the hires was a home run. As of now, Gus is slightly ahead of Bert. But it's by a really thin margin that is only shrinking. Butch still isn't very good. UT fans are going to be confused next year when they go 8-4. Interested to see what Stoops does next year, seems to be recruiting better, but he has to beat somebody.
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:15 pm to
You should be glad. 6-6 seasons are hard to come by at Arky. frick a SEC title
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40896 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:15 pm to
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Where do you get the idea Bert inherited a mess. He just followed a coach who was a mess. Petrino had good recruiting classes. You dumb.


This is quite possibly the dumbest post I've ever read on this board.
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