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Posted on 5/27/15 at 1:30 pm to WeeWee
quote:Good! So this should end the weekly expansion threads, right?
Nothing happens until 2024 at the earliest.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 1:39 pm to RT1941
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Nothing happens until 2024 at the earliest.
Good! So this should end the weekly expansion threads, right?
Nope, and I am rooting for NCST and VT.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 1:48 pm to biggsc
Is it required we have this same discussion every week?
Posted on 5/27/15 at 1:52 pm to ATLdawg25
Kinda of what I was thinking. If we add UNC, that puts us over the top in basketball and I've always thought VT fits in the SEC.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:12 pm to TrueReb13
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Is it required we have this same discussion every week?
I keep hoping that after a few years of it maybe everyone will get the clue that:
1. It won't happen for a while.
2. When it does happen it will be a Virginia team and a North Carolina team, because money.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:28 pm to bamamonty
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Oklahoma a no go. They're just a lap-dog for Texas. Nobody wants Tex
also they're not an AAU and are in a podunk state nobody wants to travel to..
the okies would just drag the conference down.
otoh, if you want a school that specializes in cheating..
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:38 pm to Jagd Tiger
Or the fact that they have a state population of less than 4 million people, compared to NC at almost 10 million and Virginia having over 8 million.
Plus the fact that Oklahoma St. is politically tied to OU, and the SEC doesn't want both.
Plus the fact that OU's brand is tied to Texas, who doesn't want the SEC at all.
Maybe eventually OU will take a SEC invite by themselves, but a LOT of things have to happen such as:
-A complete undoing of the current cable company model for an al-a-carte model
-Such a period of decline in their program that they move past the need for Texas out of desperation
-T Boone dies, freeing them from taking Okie Lite
Plus the fact that Oklahoma St. is politically tied to OU, and the SEC doesn't want both.
Plus the fact that OU's brand is tied to Texas, who doesn't want the SEC at all.
Maybe eventually OU will take a SEC invite by themselves, but a LOT of things have to happen such as:
-A complete undoing of the current cable company model for an al-a-carte model
-Such a period of decline in their program that they move past the need for Texas out of desperation
-T Boone dies, freeing them from taking Okie Lite
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:41 pm to cardboardboxer
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Plus the fact that OU's brand is tied to Texas, who doesn't want the SEC at all.
Why do people always say things like this? Texas & OU have spent the majority of their existence in different conferences. The B12 could blow up, the schools could go their separate ways, and Texas & OU will still play every year. Elite rivalries like that never come to an end.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:50 pm to Spindicus Lofrus
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Texas & OU have spent the majority of their existence in different conferences.
Yes, but Texas shot a hole in the side of the old boat OU's brand has ridden in most of that time. When it starts sinking history is out the window compared to staying afloat.
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The B12 could blow up, the schools could go their separate ways, and Texas & OU will still play every year
Depends on how upset Texas is about how OU left, as Texas likes to think it is a privilege to get to play them.
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Elite rivalries like that never come to an end
Oh you mean like OU-Nebraska? Nope, that shite ended when the state of Texas crashed the party of the Big 8.
Hell, Texas now doesn't play two of their three biggest rivalries in that program's history. We aren't talking about Bama here, Texas values money over history.
Plus what fricking scenario could even have Texas is a different conference? Texas in the PAC without OU? Wouldn't happen. Texas in the B1G without regional travel partners like OU? Wouldn't happen. Texas as an independent? Can't happen.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 3:36 pm to biggsc
No. No schools are available until the mid 2020s. The logical states for SEC expansion are Virginia and North Carolina.
Posted on 5/27/15 at 3:41 pm to 5thTiger
GOR?
Posted on 5/27/15 at 3:47 pm to TrueReb13
quote:Has to be.
Is it required we have this same discussion every week?
Why the hell would people start threads weekly about all of the possible scenarios of expansion that can't happen for another 8-9 years?
Posted on 5/27/15 at 3:56 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
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GOR?
It stands for Grant of Rights. What it practically means is the TV rights for ACC and Big 12 teams are LEGALLY locked to the conference until ten years down the road.
To get out of such a deal the program would have to buy back their media rights, which at $20+ million a year would be hundreds of millions of dollars (aka more than anyone would get out of a conference move). That is one reason why GOR's ended conference realignment.
The other reason is because poaching conferences (such as the B1G) don't want to legally challenge a GOR because THEY use them to in order to increase what they get back in TV money (because the lineup is guaranteed). The B1G didn't mind messing with a ACC or Big 12 exit fee, and the PAC didn't mind a Big 12 exit fee, but none of them will mess with a GOR as that is almost needed to sell TV rights. Some conferences, like the SEC, do them year by year but the ACC and Big 12 committed to a longer GOR to "handcuff" the teams together and avoid more realignment.
The practical end result is ANYONE that tells you that "________ Big 12/ACC team will move to the SEC within five years" is a moron.
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