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re: Will Muschamp: Is he or is he not a top notch DC?

Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:35 am to
He's a great defensive coach. Auburn lacks the talent needed and they're still learning a new system. Muschamp isn't known for a bland defense so you have to expect a learning curve.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48506 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:35 am to
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His record speaks for itself.


Like being 3-6 against UGA as a coach (2 wins while at LSU in 2003, 1 win at UF in 2014)
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154797 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:36 am to
But that one was forking awesome.

He's a UG plant. There is no doubt at this point. fricking up another UG rival.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69902 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:36 am to
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I honestly thought he was; not so sure now.


so three shitty games as DC for a team that has tons of injuries and a lack of talent trumps all his years of very good defenses?


You sir, are my hero...


Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
16902 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:37 am to
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bitter UF fans who conflate his terrible offense and discipline with defensive performance.


Don't forget atrocious roster management.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154797 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:38 am to
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a lack of talent


You guys have been struggling recruiting?
Posted by Ldrake53
Member since Feb 2013
2171 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:38 am to
His defense looks bad; he has looked clueless this year. . I think it's a legitimate question.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69902 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:42 am to
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You guys have been struggling recruiting?


Depends on how you look at it. Yes is my answer.

Combine the injuries of so many key players with one of our 5* defensive linemen getting kicked off the team, I would say he is low on defensive talent right now

Call it what you want.

I have full confidence that he can make our defense "good" again. Will it be great? I think that will be a tough task with our offensive style

Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24543 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:45 am to
Regardless of his recruiting and coaching abilities, Muschamp has definitely lost his mojo.

Coach in waiting at Texas takes Florida job and essentially Zook's it.

Runs his mouth at SEC media days about taking on all comers and doesn't know why anyone complains about schedules. Narrowly escapes ULL and loses to Ga So.

Highly sought after as DC. Paid handsomely by Auburn and right out the blocks gets out schemed by none other than Jacksonville St.

Many of LSUs successful plays were straight off game film from Jacksonville St.
Posted by G8RnGA
Under a rock..........
Member since Jun 2009
5129 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:48 am to
One thing I have not seen mentioned is the fact that maybe it's harder to have great defenses when your offense is primarily spread based, with some hurry up elements. Muschamp himself used that point in recruiting defensive players against the likes of Auburn.

This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 10:51 am
Posted by patchesohoulihan_007
Member since Jul 2015
2798 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:48 am to
Yes he is. He took over an abysmal defense from ellis. Give him some time to recruit his guys. Not to mention they were dealing with a lot of injuries on that side of the ball.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154797 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:49 am to
I'm sure his sales pitch is different but it's going to be harder to keep a straight face when he's selling the notion that the Gus offense is not problem for his defense.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:50 am to
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Muschamp's track record proves he is good at coaching defense. Auburn's struggles on defense are probably stemming more from their shitty offense than a lack of quality defensive coaching. JJ is so bad that it's affecting the team at every leve

Sorantable said it all IMO.
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selling the notion that the Gus offense is not problem for his defense

It is the problem but not for the reasons all the tards here have been saying for years.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 10:52 am
Posted by m45auburn
Auburn
Member since Aug 2014
4467 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:51 am to
He's a top notch defensive coach, but the defense is struggling so far because of a new scheme and injuries. If we stick with Boom, our defense will get better next year.
Posted by gstiger2233
Gulf Shores
Member since Dec 2014
346 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:53 am to
He is a good coach, we have a lot if players that either don't have the talent or are soft as players. If you watch the d you can see a handful of Gus that are good or showing promise and most of those are true freshman that he brought in
Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5493 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:53 am to
Muschamp is good DC. He needs talent.

The offense isn't helping him or his players either. They looked wore out before halftime.

Our OL and running game is likely going to do that to most teams we face this year.
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:55 am to
Auburn's talent is pretty pedestrian on that side of the ball. Hard to judge him with such average players.

His track record speaks for itself, IMO.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:55 am to
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His record speaks for itself.



Do tell. Where has he had simply dominant Defenses? Where has he shown consistent top 5 or 10 defenses?

Will is good, but the whole "record speaks for itself" line is easy to say and harder to back up.
Posted by GeauxWest
Katy
Member since Aug 2014
925 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:56 am to
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Will Muschamp: Is he or is he not a top notch DC? by Ldrake53


He is a top DC. Taught by Saban.
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:00 am to
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Do tell. Where has he had simply dominant Defenses? Where has he shown consistent top 5 or 10 defenses?


LSU as a DC ...
first Auburn stint as a DC ...
Texas as a DC ...
Florida as a HC ...
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 11:02 am
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