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Why isn't the SEC Championship an elimination game for the CFP?
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:54 pm
It's the consensus that Alabama is out of the CFP if they lose, and I think that's fair, but why should Georgia get a pass if they lose? To be clear, I think both teams in Atlanta this weekend are good enough to win the whole thing, I'm not really talking about talent or the eye test - I'm talking about putting the 4 most deserving teams in the CFP. I think the argument can be made that the loser Saturday doesn't deserve to be in the playoff over other 1-loss or undefeated conference champs.
IF (a huuuge if) Alabama were to do the unthinkable and upset the mighty Dawgs, while Oklahoma State beats Baylor, Cincy beats Houston, and Michigan handles Iowa, why should UGA get a mulligan?
Georgia's SOS (5) is actually a spot behind Michigan, and only 12 spots ahead of Okie State. The Pokes, Wolverines, and Bearcats all played at least 1 quality opponent in November, while Georgia was beating up on 4-6 Charleston Southern and 3-9 Georgia Tech. In fact, the Dawgs haven't played a team with a winning record since the middle of October.
So lets walk through the possible scenario of the 5 eligible teams, if it were to shake out like that:
Alabama - 12-1 SEC Champion, just defeated #1 UGA
Michigan - 12-1 B1G Champ, just defeated #13 Iowa, a week after taking down #2 OSU
Oklahoma State - 12-1 Big 12 Champ, just defeated #9 Baylor, a week after beating #13 Oklahoma
Cincinnati - 13-0 AAC Champ, just defeated #21 Houston
Georgia - 12-1, Lost SEC Championship, last ranked win against #23 Kentucky on Oct 16
Who deserves to be in? Georgia has gained a ton of credit, not just for winning, but how they've won - in dominating fashion. Does that still matter if they lose Saturday?
This was all probably a waste of time; UGA is likely gonna whip Bama on both sides of the ball Saturday, and any one of the other teams could certainly lose. But if we agree that the SEC is the best conference, then the Championship Game ought to matter. The winner should advance and the loser go home.
IF (a huuuge if) Alabama were to do the unthinkable and upset the mighty Dawgs, while Oklahoma State beats Baylor, Cincy beats Houston, and Michigan handles Iowa, why should UGA get a mulligan?
Georgia's SOS (5) is actually a spot behind Michigan, and only 12 spots ahead of Okie State. The Pokes, Wolverines, and Bearcats all played at least 1 quality opponent in November, while Georgia was beating up on 4-6 Charleston Southern and 3-9 Georgia Tech. In fact, the Dawgs haven't played a team with a winning record since the middle of October.
So lets walk through the possible scenario of the 5 eligible teams, if it were to shake out like that:
Alabama - 12-1 SEC Champion, just defeated #1 UGA
Michigan - 12-1 B1G Champ, just defeated #13 Iowa, a week after taking down #2 OSU
Oklahoma State - 12-1 Big 12 Champ, just defeated #9 Baylor, a week after beating #13 Oklahoma
Cincinnati - 13-0 AAC Champ, just defeated #21 Houston
Georgia - 12-1, Lost SEC Championship, last ranked win against #23 Kentucky on Oct 16
Who deserves to be in? Georgia has gained a ton of credit, not just for winning, but how they've won - in dominating fashion. Does that still matter if they lose Saturday?
This was all probably a waste of time; UGA is likely gonna whip Bama on both sides of the ball Saturday, and any one of the other teams could certainly lose. But if we agree that the SEC is the best conference, then the Championship Game ought to matter. The winner should advance and the loser go home.
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:56 pm to Goombaw
Did you think that Bama was worthy without even playing in the SECCG or winning the West?
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:57 pm to navy
Obviously as the won the whole thing every time they didn't win the SEC and got in.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:58 pm to Goombaw
For me it would be simple.
Should Bama win Saturday, the only question I’d have is “which teams can I honestly say might be better”.
I don’t think there are 3 better, and there might not be any.
Should Bama win Saturday, the only question I’d have is “which teams can I honestly say might be better”.
I don’t think there are 3 better, and there might not be any.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:59 pm to llfshoals
These are the same fricking dickheads that will be crying for Bama to get in if they lose to GA by 14 or less.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:05 am to navy
Well, I think it was a unique situation both times that Bama made it without winning the SEC Championship game, most of it had to do with other teams failing to step up when it was their turn in the spotlight. This little thought exercise was based on the idea that everyone else will do what they are supposed to and win their games.
However, I'll admit something a lot of Alabama fans probably won't - I didn't like leaving anything to the committee/computers. It feels better when you dominate and no one can argue that you deserve to be there. I enjoyed my team winning those games, but not quite as much as when we won both the SEC and National Championship.
However, I'll admit something a lot of Alabama fans probably won't - I didn't like leaving anything to the committee/computers. It feels better when you dominate and no one can argue that you deserve to be there. I enjoyed my team winning those games, but not quite as much as when we won both the SEC and National Championship.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:06 am to Goombaw
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Why isn't the SEC Championship an elimination game for the CFP?
It shouldnt have been in 2018 and shouldnt be now.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:07 am to Goombaw
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:08 am to Goombaw
Mother fricker, of all people, an Alabama fan doesn’t need to be bitching about a team getting a mulligan.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:08 am to djsdawg
Solid post, goombaw. Stand-up post.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:19 am to Goombaw
Has any team lost the SECCG and still made the playoffs?
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:26 am to Goombaw
I’m ok with UGA getting in with a loss against Bama. I mean if UGA isn’t all in for this one, then it’ll be an easy W for The Tide if they play again in the playoff. It’s not like Georgia will be “for real” ready in a rematch. They’ll be crushed.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:28 am to MizzouTrue
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Has any team lost the SECCG and still made the playoffs?
2018 UGA is the only one that should have.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:31 am to MizzouTrue
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Has any team lost the SECCG and still made the playoffs?
No. Last year Notre Dame made it in despite losing to Clemson in the ACC Championship game and promptly got smoked by Bama.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:37 am to Goombaw
Lol the irony of an alabama fan asking this. Alabama is buoyed in the rankings all the time for eye test and brand recognition - how could this possibly happen to anyone else?!
To answer your question: Georgia has beaten everyone since week 1 by ~30 points and barely breaking a sweat.
Bama looked like it was shitting razorblades trying to beat a bad Florida, lsu, auburn, etc.
To answer your question: Georgia has beaten everyone since week 1 by ~30 points and barely breaking a sweat.
Bama looked like it was shitting razorblades trying to beat a bad Florida, lsu, auburn, etc.
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This was all probably a waste of time
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:44 am to Goombaw
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but why should Georgia get a pass if they lose?
Even though I don't think they should (Being your Conference Champ should be a requirement imo), This is a topic that would be better served being brought up by absolutely any other fanbase besides Gumps.
At least UGA would have won their division.
Something two of Saban's National Championship Bama teams couldn't even accomplish.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 12:45 am
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:48 am to icheerforgeorgia
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To answer your question: Georgia has beaten everyone since week 1 by ~30 points and barely breaking a sweat.
Bama looked like it was shitting razorblades trying to beat a bad Florida, lsu, auburn, etc.
And yet, nobody in America, including Dawg fans, would be the tiniest bit surprised if Bama boat-raced UGA, much less barely wins the game tomorrow.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:52 am to Goombaw
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IF (a huuuge if) Alabama were to do the unthinkable and upset the mighty Dawgs, while Oklahoma State beats Baylor, Cincy beats Houston, and Michigan handles Iowa, why should UGA get a mulligan?
Unthinkable? Take a bath man you are odorous!
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:54 am to navy
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Did you think that Bama was worthy without even playing in the SECCG or winning the West?
Clearly, they were!!!
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:54 am to Goombaw
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Well, I think it was a unique situation both times that Bama made it without winning the SEC Championship game,
Let's get shite straight here: Bama did not lose the SECCG those two years.
They never even got to it.
Trying to compare that scenario to UGA losing tomorrow and still being kept in the CFP is disingenuous.
The selectors of the title contenders didn't get to see Bama lose right before making their final decision on their worthiness.
Because Bama wasn't on tv that weekend for everyone to see them lose.
If UGA loses tomorrow, it will be fresh on everyone's mind, and their weaknesses and deficiencies which lead to the loss will be fresh in everyone's minds when they go to make their decision.
Bama's two lucky breaks didn't allow for that.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 12:56 am
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