Why is UCF fans so butthurt over the championship?

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I'm hoping that this is just a publicity stunt to try to bring attention to the defects inherent in the 4-team playoff system. They can't be that deluded to actually believe being undefeated is the sole determiner in whether or not a team is the national champion.

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Bama couldn't even go undefeated against a weak schedule

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And yet... you lost 4 games - two of which we've already faced and beat - a third will face Monday. Hmmmmm. Seems like you guys would drop this narrative

All trolling aside they have a point. All talking heads said all along Auburn, despite 2 Ls, was a sure thing in the playoffs if they beat UGA, Bamas and The SECCG. They felt just one game short of course but did beat both teams playing monday.

UCF beat them fair and square. UCF was better than a team everyone considered playoff worthy. They didn't lose a a single game. Not a great schedule but you play who is in the calendar.

To me the NC will be the monday winner but these cats have a legit argument.

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They went undefeated in such a weak schedule and now they are claiming the national championship? This is just stupid. If they are so great put them in the SEC schedule against Bama or Georgia

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Because the beat a team that finished the year with 4 losses, and that proves they are a great football team. Duh.

Well they beat the 2nd best team in the SEC. What else do they need to do?

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All trolling aside they have a point. All talking heads said all along Auburn, despite 2 Ls, was a sure thing in the playoffs if they beat UGA, Bamas and The SECCG. They felt just one game short of course but did beat both teams playing monday.

UCF beat them fair and square. UCF was better than a team everyone considered playoff worthy. They didn't lose a a single game. Not a great schedule but you play who is in the calendar.

To me the NC will be the monday winner but these cats have a legit argument.

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This doesn't constitute a legitimate argument to claim that they are a National Champion... but maybe at least a better case that they should have been more seriously included for the playoffs... work through the logic again...

As of Dec 3rd, Auburn was no longer a "sure thing in the playoffs"... They were a top team, but no longer a "playoff contending" team... UCF didn't draw Ohio State, the "first team out", or even USC, another Conference champion... they drew a 3 loss Auburn team that didn't win it's own conference and played poorly away from home all season. Then, somehow by winning a bowl game - let's not even call it meaningless - on a neutral site, this is somehow sufficient evidence that they are champions? If they'd beaten a P5 conference champion, maybe you've got an argument, because you can say "We won our conference, and we beat a P5 conference champion... P5/G5 distinction is irrelevant...)

Also, at the time of *selection*, UCF did not have a SOS that indicated that they had competed at the level of a top 4 caliber team... "you play who is [on] the calendar" is a strange way to excuse their SOS... they are responsible for their own SOS to a reasonable degree... they don't control their Conference schedule, but they *DO* control their OOC schedule...

FIU
Maryland
Ga Tech
Austin Peay*** (replaced fellow FCS opponent Maine after hurricane)

Even if we give them credit for the Ga Tech game, which they were unable to play due to the hurricane...

They scheduled a bottom tier B1G team, but it was at least a P5 team. And a low-middle tier ACC team, but again a P5 team...

Then they scheduled FIU and Austin Peay*. These 2 games are the problem... if a G5 school feels that they should have a chance to win a national title because they are equivalent to a Bama, Ohio State, or Southern Cal (the 3 teams vying for the last slot), they would have known in advance that their *conference* schedule is insufficient to build that case, and in all likelihood has sufficient "cupcakes" that scheduling opponents like this should be a concern.

They *need* quality wins. 4 P5 games is probably not in the cards (nor is it a fair "requirement" IMO, though to be fair, P5 schools play a minimum of 8 of them...), simply from a "getting enough teams to sign up for them" perspective, but scheduling an FCS school and a bottom tier C-USA school (they had not had more than 5 wins total in at least the 5 years prior to this season... when it was scheduled, they knew what they were signing up for - regardless of whether the team won 8 this year or not. This is specifically looking at *intent* of the schedule they put together.)

I was curious when some of these games were scheduled, and interestingly enough, THIS might have made a HUGE difference in the perception of this team...

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UCF Football moves Texas game to 2023, adds Maine to schedule

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No clue the reasoning behind it (whether Texas had to pull out or UCF), but if I'm being objective about it... if they'd *scheduled* Texas, Ga Tech, and Maryland to start the season... that looks like a team that was prepared to go play with the big boys... even though Texas isn't great, nor is Ga Tech or Maryland... but if 3/4 OOC games are against P5 schools, they're doing their part IMO.

Even though the Texas game might not have been played due to the hurricane (unlikely that their off weeks overlapped, not checking) - we probably would have given them the transitive property win over Texas given that Maryland beat them right around the same time... It would have made the conversation a HELL of a lot more interesting at least.




I'm actually all for them claiming a championship... hell, plenty of teams claim championships that are dubious at best... but what is dumb is the people who are saying "they have a legitimate argument for it". It's not a legitimate argument, at least at this time. Once all games have been played, if there is some recognized source out there that says it, I'd say it's fair to grant legitimacy to it... Until then, it's an opinion which they are more than entitled to.

I highly doubt that coulda went to JHS and beat Auburn during that span when the War Eagles beat UGA and Bama. Hell LSU and Clemson beat Auburn but they lost to Bama. I’d bet the house on Bama or Georgia against UCF at a neutral site.

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Don’t take anything away from UCF. Just let them have their moment....

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you're not welcome here a-hole.