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re: Why does LSU think they have more depth?

Posted on 10/30/11 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
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Posted on 10/30/11 at 1:39 pm to
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they play 50-60 players per game.

Games Played



This question was answered on page one, then promptly ignored.

LSU has more depth at QB, RB, WR, TE, OL, DL, and DB.

Period. Now deal with it.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
75821 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 1:51 pm to
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You guys would be in trouble too if Lee went down.


We would actually be in a much stronger position. Saban and Smart's gameplan for this contest is J.Lee playing 80% of the time and Jefferson getting roughly 20% of the snaps. A gameplan that reverses that is not considered probable, but if it does happen then LSU's position, in reality, gets much stronger not weaker in relation to Bama. Tell me where I am off on this?
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19251 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 2:15 pm to
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This question was answered on page one, then promptly ignored.

LSU has more depth at QB, RB, WR, TE, OL, DL, and DB.

Period. Now deal with it.


Well considering Bama has much better RB, more of them carry the ball for for more yards pretty much kills that one.

LSU does have more experienced depth at QB and WR.

Not at TE, OL, or DB.
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/30/11 at 2:37 pm to
Explain to me why QB depth matters? Is LSU planning on injuring McCarron?
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7582 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 2:44 pm to
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Is LSU planning on injuring McCarron?

Yes ... that's the plan. The bounty has already been set.
Posted by RT58
Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/30/11 at 2:46 pm to
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re: Why does LSU think they have more depth? (Posted on 10/30/11 at 9:07 a.m. to CrimsonChin)
Why does CrimsonChin think Bama is invincible?



"I'm sure when Peyton Manning was growing up he always wanted to throw the TD pass that gave the Saints a Super Bowl win. Now he has." - ESPN the Magazine's Jorge Arangure



Probably same reason you think LSU is invincible. We're all homers
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 10/30/11 at 2:49 pm to
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Probably same reason you think LSU is invincible. We're all homers

1. I don't think any team is invincible. Every team has it's weakness ... it's just a matter of finding it.
2. I'm not a homer. I'm actually very objective and think this game will come down to a critical turnover or special teams play. Hopefully LSU is the team to make that play, but it's not a given in my mind.
Posted by Tide75
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:01 pm to
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I think you should adress the point being made before moving on to an unrelated argument.

If you want to make a statistical comparison between the LSU and Alabama defenses, you need to acknowledge the significant difference in the quality of opponents.


What "Significant" differences do you want me to recognize? Yes! Oregon is a good team. So far their only loss is to LSU. And WVU is decent. I mean I guess they are After all, didn't LSU give up over 400 yards to them? And when you look at their schedule, other than LSU, who have they played? Marshal, Norfolk State, Bowling Green? They've yet to play a single top 25 team. But if you wanna brag about beating an irrelevant Big East pushover then go right ahead. Arkansas is way better than WVU and is likely better than Oregon.

You can spin things any way you want, but Bama stacks up better than LSU in nearly every aspect. If LSU were sooo awesome then why haven't we seen them on the cover of SI twice this season? Yes, LSU is ranked #1, fair enough. But that's only because there's no sense in swapping them with Bama since voters are fully aware that they don't have to vote on it. The vote will be made next Saturday.

Here's a little something for your viewing pleasure....







Posted by Bwbama
Member since Oct 2011
349 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:06 pm to
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LSU def players have recorded tackles for loss this year. How bout bama? STATS!


All four Bama RBs have runs over 44 yards this year. How about LSU? I'll save you the time: NONE.
Posted by BamainCFL
Tuscaloosa
Member since Sep 2009
653 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:14 pm to
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I said Bama has more aggressive play calling whilst up by 15 or more. 73 pass attempts to 40 for us.
This is ridiculous.

We have more TOTAL plays when up by 15+.
We have LESS total plays in the 4th quarter, and MORE yards.

Have you ever thought that being up by 15+ is a good time to let your new QBs get some practice?

We've also thrown more INTs when up 15+, so its not like that agressive play calling is running up the score a ton.
This post was edited on 10/30/11 at 3:16 pm
Posted by RT58
Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
4061 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:15 pm to
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re: Why does LSU think they have more depth? (Posted on 10/30/11 at 2:49 p.m. to tigerbama)
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Probably same reason you think LSU is invincible. We're all homers

1. I don't think any team is invincible. Every team has it's weakness ... it's just a matter of finding it.
2. I'm not a homer. I'm actually very objective and think this game will come down to a critical turnover or special teams play. Hopefully LSU is the team to make that play, but it's not a given in my mind.

Just messin with ya. I actually think this game will be decided by special teams play.It's no secret your team has the edge at QB,depth wise especially. It's the kicking game that I'm worried about. We are admittingly mediocre in that area as we rarely ever put one inside the 5 yard line. Looking forward to a great game either way.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
58991 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 3:26 pm to
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If LSU were sooo awesome then why haven't we seen them on the cover of SI twice this season?


well, that settles it!

Yeah, the Lions were roaring too! :rotflmao:

Posted by Tide75
Somewhere in the stratosphere
Member since Oct 2011
74 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 4:06 pm to
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This question was answered on page one, then promptly ignored.

LSU has more depth at QB, RB, WR, TE, OL, DL, and DB.

Period. Now deal with it.


Let's take a look at LSU's so called depth and the numbers associated with it. For now I'll only mention QB & RB. Im posting via IPhone at the moment and can break down the rest when I get back to a computer.


QB - Im not sure how you figure LSU is deeper here Yes, both Lee & JJ have more experience. But both AJ McCarron & Phillip Sims have better individual AND combined stats than Lee & JJ.

McCarron - 134 of 200 for 1664
Lee - 98 of 156 for 1250

Jefferson - 6 of 10 for 123
Sims - 18 of 28 for 163
*some may argue that Jefferson was suspended. Still his fault and therefore his numbers reflect his reckless behavior. It'd be different if he'd been injured or something beyond his control.

RB - I'll only include the top three backs from each team.

Bama
Richardson - 149 for 989 - Avg 6.6 per carry, 17 TD's
Lacy - 58 for 465 - Avg 8.0 per carry, 5 TD's
Fowler - 47 for 329 - Avg 7.0 per carry, 3 TD's

LSU
Ware - 128 for 512 - Avg 4.0 per carry, 6 TD's
Ford - 79 for 441 - Avg 5.6 per carry, 6 TD's
Blue - 57 for 252 - Avg 4.4 per carry, 4 TD's


Trent Richardson alone has rushed for more yardage and scored more points than Ford & Ware combined. And against better defenses. You better hope you have great depth on D. Youre gonna need every one of them to slow down our running game.




Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 4:30 pm to
AJ has had alot more attempts. JL has alot lot less attempts, but better passing effeciancy.

When we do throw, we are better at it
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31006 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 4:35 pm to
only a gump could come up with a way to say that bama has more DEPTH at the qb position relative to lsu
Posted by Newgene
Waveland, MS
Member since Nov 2005
7271 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 4:40 pm to
LSU puts in the 2nd and 3rd team very fast in games. Bama usually rides out the 1st team for far longer. It's just coaching styles.

That would probably be the most logical explanation.
Posted by Krypto
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Aug 2005
1476 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 5:33 pm to
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So let me get this straight.....26 players have recorded tackles for loss this year? Yet, your overall defensive stats STILL aren't as good as Bama's. With all that depth, youre still allowing more yardage per game than Alabama. Obviously our few are WAY better than your many.


When your few play against the caliber offenses we have then come back and talk about giving up more yards.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81328 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 5:37 pm to
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the Penn St D is FAR better than any team LSU has faced


post Penn State's schedule
Posted by Tide75
Somewhere in the stratosphere
Member since Oct 2011
74 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 5:41 pm to
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AJ has had alot more attempts. JL has alot lot less attempts, but better passing effeciancy.

When we do throw, we are better at it


No offense but that's incorrect also.

AJ has a completion percentage of 67.0%
Lee has a completion percentage of 63.2%

We throw more often & are better at it.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 10/30/11 at 5:45 pm to
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QB - Im not sure how you figure LSU is deeper here Yes, both Lee & JJ have more experience. But both AJ McCarron & Phillip Sims have better individual AND combined stats than Lee & JJ.

McCarron - 134 of 200 for 1664
Lee - 98 of 156 for 1250

Jefferson - 6 of 10 for 123
Sims - 18 of 28 for 163


LSU has played better competition. Outside of Penn State, Alabama hasn't played a good passing D that LSU hasn't also played.

On top of that, LSU has played West Virginia (#28) and Mississippi State (#17). Hell even Kentucky is #22.

So I look at those stats, see similar numbers, but one set comes against much better competition.

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