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re: Why does it have to be a package deal?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:09 pm to Numberwang
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:09 pm to Numberwang
OU is a national brand with more fans than alumni. It doesn't matter where their alumni settle. These aren't the days of regional broadcasts; everything is streamed world wide. UT has that to a larger degree, but OU has been more competitive over the last decade and sustaining that success. Plus their football culture fits the SEC profile much better. They would be the "get".
OU is Leonard Fournette and UT is Lanard.
OU is Leonard Fournette and UT is Lanard.
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:10 pm to abellsujr
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OU ain’t coming without Texas
Aside from being a guaranteed W every year why else would they hesitate?
Only thing I can guess is that taking OU would result in lawsuits from other B12 schools if we didn't take Tejas too
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:13 pm to WildManGoose
Football competitiveness doesn’t matter. Texas brings in the most cash.
Also, the red river shootout brings in bank for all parties involved. Including the city of Dallas and state of Texas. They will do everything possible to keep that game relevant. That’s just one of the reasons why this is a package deal.
Also, the red river shootout brings in bank for all parties involved. Including the city of Dallas and state of Texas. They will do everything possible to keep that game relevant. That’s just one of the reasons why this is a package deal.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:21 pm to cardboardboxer
Let them go
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:23 pm to abellsujr
If they bring in so much cash then why do they need to leave the XII and why are the XII and LHN TV deals so crap?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:29 pm to WildManGoose
I don’t know. But it’s a fact they bring in the most money of any other school. I have heard the longhorn network was a disaster though.
As far as why they need to leave the big 12? It’s a disaster conference and they understand they need to look to the future. SEC is the number one destination. If this doesn’t work out they’ll go somewhere else. The question you should be asking is, why would they want to stay in the big 12 when they don’t have to?
Ask Texas man. I don’t know
but they want in bad
As far as why they need to leave the big 12? It’s a disaster conference and they understand they need to look to the future. SEC is the number one destination. If this doesn’t work out they’ll go somewhere else. The question you should be asking is, why would they want to stay in the big 12 when they don’t have to?
Ask Texas man. I don’t know
but they want in badThis post was edited on 7/22/21 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:41 pm to abellsujr
quote:That's UT revenue, not money for the conference. That doesn't matter in the least for conference admission.
But it’s a fact they bring in the most money of any other school.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:50 pm to WildManGoose
so are you saying the sec is just letting them in for kicks? I don’t understand. For what reason do you think the sec schools are voting yes in this? Because somebody somewhere believes there’s money to be made here. Contract with ESPN on a Texas entry stipulation? Why are they voting yes?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:52 pm to abellsujr
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For what reason do you think the sec schools are voting yes in this?
Trust me.
We’d like to know the answer to that question.
It’s a horrible move.
And for the record, no one has voted “yes.”
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:00 pm to abellsujr
It is for money, I'm not saying it isn't. But any school with a following will increase conference revenue in media rights. I just don't think an OU/UT deal is going to be much more valuable than any OU/P5 rando combo. Especially if you weigh in ego and potential conference schism.
The SEC power dynamic is pretty well known and balanced. I think OU would be able to integrate easily. I don't feel the same about UT.
The SEC power dynamic is pretty well known and balanced. I think OU would be able to integrate easily. I don't feel the same about UT.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:09 pm to WildManGoose
The thing is, OU has no reason to go if Texas doesn’t. leave. They are happy in their little red river shootout world. This is not an aTm situation. They work well with Texas. Both schools make bank off each other. OU more so from Texas. I don’t think they’ll ever separate from each other. The same way I think osu and Michigan never would. So I think we can probably rule that out as a possibility.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:10 pm to abellsujr
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Football competitiveness doesn’t matter. Texas brings in the most cash.
That's exactly it.
Texas brings the cash. Oklahoma brings the football.
As a package, those two programs are super enticing to any conference considering expansion, which is going to happen.
The SEC is the most enticing conference in a post NIL ruling landscape. That's most likely is what is fueling this.
But the Big10 and PAC with OU and Texas in the fold isn't so bad either. There's better media markets in those leagues, but there isn't better college football markets in those league.
If the SEC passes, OU and Texas are going to look elsewhere. The Big 12 is done.
It's a package deal because, as free agents in the conference alignment game in a post NIL ruling world, they gain so much more leverage as a pair then they do individually.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:43 pm to 405sooner
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It's a package deal because, as free agents in the conference alignment game in a post NIL ruling world, they gain so much more leverage as a pair then they do individually.
What leverage would this pair have on any conference other than the Pac? The SEC and B1G don't need them. The ACC is geographically unfit. They can't sustain the XII.
The SEC is just as likely to tell them to get fricked.
You mentioned how the conference benefits them, but how do they benefit the conference? Texas supposedly is an elite draw, but their media bargaining doesn't reflect that. They're #1 in AD revenue, but that's not shared revenue. So, what's the benefit to the SEC? What's that $$ value? And what's NIL got to do with benefit to the conference? (Serious question, maybe I'm missing something)
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:49 pm to j1897
Just so you know, I have really liked having West Virginia in conference and they have been a good conference member. You hear so much bad stuff about their fan base but most of them in person are just down to earth good people.
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