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re: Why can't Saban evaluate qb's
Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:46 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:46 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Pardon me. 9500+ yards
Told you he didn't.
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:46 pm to agregime1
I don't think it's an evaluation problem at all. Until recently, none of Saban's qb recruits were elite in high school. There's nothing odd about that -- Saban was known to run a relatively conservative offense, which wasn't going to attract a lot of 5 star with dreams of the NFL. His QB recruiting has picked up, but that's partly because he's brought in new OCs to break out of the conservative system he ran, and partly because elite QBs are going to flock to a program with an extremely high profile, and over the last 6 years, no program has had a higher profile than Bama.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:48 pm to craigbiggio
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Also picked Daunte Culpepper over Drew Brees
No he didn't. The Dolphins front office picked Culpepper over Brees. Saban wanted Brees, but the team doctors would not clear him. This has been explained so many times I feel like I am taking crazy pills. But like Patton said, thank god.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:50 pm to randomways
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I don't think it's an evaluation problem at all. Until recently, none of Saban's qb recruits were elite in high school. There's nothing odd about that -- Saban was known to run a relatively conservative offense, which wasn't going to attract a lot of 5 star with dreams of the NFL. His QB recruiting has picked up, but that's partly because he's brought in new OCs to break out of the conservative system he ran, and partly because elite QBs are going to flock to a program with an extremely high profile, and over the last 6 years, no program has had a higher profile than Bama.
Well, fun thread while it lasted folks. Tomorrow let's discuss how bad Saban is at evaluating TEs. Should be fun.
This post was edited on 6/7/15 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 6/7/15 at 10:08 pm to Patton
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Well, fun thread while it lasted folks. Tomorrow let's discuss how bad Saban is at evaluating TEs. Should be fun.
I actually want to know what happening with O.J. Howard after his promising freshman season. The kid has incredible physical gifts but for some reason he can't seem to get a handle on the ball heading his way. I don't think it's a coaching problem. He's running the routes, he's getting open, he's doing all the things a coach can instill. It just looks like he has some sort of weird mental block about getting a grip on the ball, one that somehow developed over the last year.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 10:12 pm to randomways
I think he just needs to start playing with a little more attitude. A mean streak would do wonders for his game.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 10:22 pm to agregime1
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Why can't Saban evaluate qb's
I really don't get these threads. Who the hell cares about who you recruit? It is who you finish with. Only ONE QB plays and you compete for that spot. Do Bama fans really talk about all the QBs other teams recruit, who never play? Of course not.
You really want to know Saban's ability to evaluate WINNERS? Look below. I'd say that is better than just about every team in the country.
Saban's QBs:
Year, Quarterback,TD/Int, accolades
2014 Blake Sims 28/10 (2nd Team SEC, SEC Championship Game MVP)
2013 AJ McCarron 28/7 (2nd in Heisman, 2nd team SEC, Maxwell Award, Johnny Unitas Award)
2012 AJ McCarron 31/3 (National Title, 2nd team SEC)
2011 AJ McCarron 16/5 (National Title - Offensive MVP)
2010 Greg McElroy 20/5
2009 Greg McElroy 17/4 (SEC Championship Game MVP, National Title)
2008 John Parker Wilson 10/8; 1.25 to 1
2007 John Parker Wilson 18/12; 1.5 to 1
Finis
Posted on 6/7/15 at 10:22 pm to agregime1
Isn't this how it works everywhere? I would say one in four pans out.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 10:25 pm to Bench McElroy
I dont think he was here long enough to judge one way or another. Rohan and JaMarcus flourished under jimbo..flynn had that GOAT peach bowl vs miami...2003 was maucks only full year as a starter. Marcus Randall was always just going to be a bridge for JR. Booty left and got drafted after one year, nall, clausen and lester ricard transferred.
It would have been interesting to see how the qb position would have developed had he stayed and perrilloux gone to texas.
It would have been interesting to see how the qb position would have developed had he stayed and perrilloux gone to texas.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 10:40 pm to Bham4Tide
People like you annoy me, if you don't like this thread then don't open or post. You gave me 3 qb's I gave you 6, who the hell is talking about recruiting winners, I'm talking about recruiting qb's, everyone recruits winners get out of here with that talk.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 10:49 pm to agregime1
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People like you annoy me, if you don't like this thread then don't open or post. You gave me 3 qb's I gave you 6, who the hell is talking about recruiting winners, I'm talking about recruiting qb's, everyone recruits winners get out of here with that talk.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:23 pm to agregime1
A converted running back put 59 on your team. Your all world QB didn't do jack shite. Sumlin is the one with a development problem it seems.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:26 pm to Patton
quote:LSU would probably have a couple more championships if Saban had gotten Brees, so not sure it's something to be grateful for.
Also picked Daunte Culpepper over Drew Brees
Thank God
Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:36 pm to agregime1
This method is a poor way of trying to evaluate if Saban is able to evaluate QB's or not.
The QB's who lost out on the QB battle simply decided to transfer instead of sticking it out.
If AJ had lost the battle, and Simms had won a national championship that year, good chance AJ ends up at UAB or something.
It's not as if most college QB's go on to NFL careers. Especially if they never start in college. I'm guessing when these kids transfer, they kind of realize any shot at the NFL is gone and don't try as hard etc.
PS: Luke Del Rio was a walk on, and Morris and McLeod were never expected to be starters really. Bateman either really.
The QB's who lost out on the QB battle simply decided to transfer instead of sticking it out.
If AJ had lost the battle, and Simms had won a national championship that year, good chance AJ ends up at UAB or something.
It's not as if most college QB's go on to NFL careers. Especially if they never start in college. I'm guessing when these kids transfer, they kind of realize any shot at the NFL is gone and don't try as hard etc.
PS: Luke Del Rio was a walk on, and Morris and McLeod were never expected to be starters really. Bateman either really.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:38 pm to agregime1
How can he coach up a QB when he can't see over the line of scrimmage?
Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:44 pm to DannyB
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:02 am to agregime1
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Why can't Saban evaluate qb's
Why would you think he could? The man's entire background is on defense. He played DB, coached DB's and been a DC.
So why the hell would you expect a man who's never played QB, or coached QB's, to be able to evaluate QB's?
HC's are hired because they have an expertise on ONE side of the ball. Saban's teams play great defense because that's what he knows, how well the offense does (and how well they evaluate/recruit) is dependant upon the quality of offensive coaching staff he's able to put together.
Idiots like you give HC's way to much credit/blame for everything. You really think Les Miles has jack sh!t to do with LSU's defense? Or Bob Stoops has anything to do with Oklahoma's offense? Newsflash, they don't.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:09 am to agregime1
Silly post. Saban inherited both Wilson and McElroy and somehow got 4 years from those guys including two west titles, an sec title and a natty.
He has only had two starters that he recruited and signed, Mccaron and Sims, who only combined for 2 sec titles and 2 nattys.
The scary thing is Saban is actually signing elite QBs now, which considering what he has done with mostly scrubs in 8 years, should scare the sh!t out of all of you.
He has only had two starters that he recruited and signed, Mccaron and Sims, who only combined for 2 sec titles and 2 nattys.
The scary thing is Saban is actually signing elite QBs now, which considering what he has done with mostly scrubs in 8 years, should scare the sh!t out of all of you.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:45 am to intothegrinder
Asking why he can't do something warrants you calling me an idiot?
i asked why and if he was unable to evaluate qb's guess I cant state an opinion anymore. keep on acting tough behind that keyboard of yours bet you wouldn't say that in real life.
i asked why and if he was unable to evaluate qb's guess I cant state an opinion anymore. keep on acting tough behind that keyboard of yours bet you wouldn't say that in real life.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 2:06 am to agregime1
quote:do you like have a quota of threads you have to start on here each day or somebody shoots your mom in the head? you've got 163 posts and i swear 150 are you starting some bullshite thread
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