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re: Why can't Arkansas get over the hump
Posted on 6/26/12 at 11:13 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 6/26/12 at 11:13 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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historically, as I said and you refuted, not much difference. this is why when people saw Arkansas is a crap program, we get defensive. Saban turned yall around, and LSU has been on a great run. but no one can say that it cant be done at arkansas.
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historically, as I said and you refuted, not much difference. this is why when people saw Arkansas is a crap program, we get defensive. Saban turned yall around, and LSU has been on a great run. but no one can say that it cant be done at arkansas.
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 11:16 pm to cigsmcgee
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but no one can say that it cant be done at arkansas.
Yes they can, and I am saying that.
You're Arkansas, you're a smaller program than LSU in every sense of the word. We were underachieving for 25 years prior to Saban. Arkansas has more or less played to their level except for the last 2 years when they have played way over it but without Petrino that's over.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 11:23 pm to Draconian Sanctions
i should never have assumed a swamp kitten would be sober enough to look at numbers and think.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 11:24 pm to cigsmcgee
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historically, as I said and you refuted, not much difference. this is why when people saw Arkansas is a crap program, we get defensive
You played in the SWaC firm 50 to 92 why LSU was in the SEC. Maybe you haven't noticed the trend but ever since you joined a real league you stopped being able to pad your stats with weak conference play.
Fact: you are ranked half as much in the last 20 years (5 times in SEC) than the previous 20 years (10 times SWaC)
Posted on 6/26/12 at 11:29 pm to cigsmcgee
Posted on 6/26/12 at 11:30 pm to Crow Pie
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without Petrino that's over.
^this is true unless we get a grand slam hire we will continue to be lil ole ArKysaw.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 11:32 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Boom
Posted on 6/26/12 at 11:39 pm to LSUNV
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Boom
good god yall are slow.
Dracs include the last decade and change. the argument was historically, and no one said LSU hasnt been dominant since Saban came in. the point is before Saban, the numbers are pretty even.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 11:45 pm to cigsmcgee
Ok #1 it helps but just 12 years doesn't make such a dramatic difference to make up between #9 and #22
#2 You're still acting like the last 12 years doesn't count or something
#2 You're still acting like the last 12 years doesn't count or something
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Posted on 6/27/12 at 12:00 am to Draconian Sanctions
Jesus christ man. He specifically said MANY TIMES, "before Saban."
Posted on 6/27/12 at 12:03 am to Draconian Sanctions
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12 years doesn't make such a dramatic difference to make up between #9 and #22
playing with the Stassen site, florida jumped 12 spots from 1990 to 2000. it just goes to show how one coach (or in lsu's case two) can get a team rolling and basically rewrite history.
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You're still acting like the last 12 years doesn't count or something
this would only be shady if I was trying to say Arkansas's program is, RIGHT NOW, in the same class as LSU, and im not a tard.
my whole point is just that theres hasnt been a lot of separation between the two programs until this last 12 years (without getting into a SEC vs SWC debate tonite), something i find interesting, as in the florida jump in all time winning % thanks to spurrier.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 12:03 am to Hog Springs
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Posted on 6/27/12 at 12:08 am to cigsmcgee
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can get a team rolling and basically rewrite history.
Even if you're right, it's not really rewriting history, it's just plain writing history.
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my whole point is just that theres hasnt been a lot of separation between the two programs until this last 12 years (without getting into a SEC vs SWC debate tonite)
That's a whole lot of qualifiers but I'm still wondering why any of this matters. You're not LSU nor are you Florida.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 12:10 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Except we were underachieving and they weren't
Money changes a lot and the Waltons have a lot of money.
Same as Oregon, historically that program is nothing in football but with Knight's money he's built them into a formidable force.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 12:13 am to rangers911
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Money changes a lot and the Waltons have a lot of money.
Same as Oregon, historically that program is nothing in football but with Knight's money he's built them into a formidable force.
This isn't the PAC-12 or the Big-12 where you can jump over a whole shitload of programs in one feil swoop. Arkansas has just had their best two years in decades and they still can't recruit for shite. There are some things money can't buy and Arkansas is destined to be a medium sized fish in the SEC ocean.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 12:14 am to cigsmcgee
Some more numbers since we're putting them up quarter century rankings. these don't include the Saban era this takes into account winning percentage, big bowl appearances, recognized national championships, and STRENGTH of schedule points
1900-1924
1925-1949
1950-1974
1975-1999
The point is only from 1975-99 was arky ever better than an underachieving LSU
1900-1924
1925-1949
1950-1974
1975-1999
The point is only from 1975-99 was arky ever better than an underachieving LSU
Posted on 6/27/12 at 12:14 am to Draconian Sanctions
The Arkansas posters comparing Arkansas to Florida/LSU pre Spurrier/Saban are forgetting something very crucial. Louisiana and Florida were states packed with talent that larger programs like Tennessee, Alabama, Nebraska, etc were raiding. All they lacked was the right coach to keep the talent home. Arkansas had a top 5 national coach, but there was no home talent to keep. Arkansas has reached its ceiling. You can only go so far with 4 or 5 solid in state players and the leftovers LSU and Texas do not want.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 1:27 am to Monticello
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good god yall are slow
Is it just me,or did the link have some other things you can sort by. Oh and by the way I do believe it said all time
Posted on 6/27/12 at 9:14 am to Draconian Sanctions
Funny thing is, Lsu tries to act like they're on the same level as Bama, when in reality Bama is light years ahead of them in every conceivable category.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 12:05 pm to Stonehog
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Funny thing is, Lsu tries to act like they're on the same level as Bama, when in reality Bama is light years ahead of them in every conceivable category.
Uh, no we don't. 
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