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re: Why Bielema left a program with three straight Rose Bowls for Arkansas
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:26 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:26 am to hawgfaninc
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Soon after Bielema turned down the Auburn job
Did you really quote this shite to make it seem like Bielema turned down AU for it's HC position?
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After his first year on the job, he got a call. It was Tommy Tuberville, then the head coach at Auburn. Tuberville needed a defensive coordinator, and he wanted Bielema.
Bielema thought it would be unwise to leave Wisconsin after just one year, so he told Tuberville no. But it was then, after that flirtation, that Bielema decided maybe, someday, he might like to coach in the SEC.
Soon after Bielema turned down the Auburn job, Alvarez called Bielema into his office.
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Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:28 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
quote:You can't be shocked. All we are left with is a few posters who are really, really bad at trying to imitate Lat.
Did you really quote this shite to make it seem like Bielema turned down AU for it's HC position?
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:30 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
Wow, that is a sad and failed attempt by the hawg fan.. 
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:32 am to Politiceaux
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Lat.
Banned?
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:34 am to Aubie Spr96
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Are we supposed to answer the question or are you gonna do it later?
updated OP with answer
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And now here we are, with the SEC more than halfway to a decade's worth of consecutive national titles, with a coach like Bielema willing to leave a secure and successful Big Ten program to run a team that has never won an SEC championship. And all of this raises the question: Is it better to coach a middling SEC program than to coach a perennial contender for the Rose Bowl? Bielema won't get too deep into this discussion, because he won't define Arkansas as "middling," but he does say that coaching in Fayetteville, even with the program's limitations, brings him closer to a national title than he would have been at Wisconsin. It's tough to argue either way on that point — in most years, an undefeated Wisconsin team would play for the title, as would an SEC championship-winning Arkansas team, even with a loss. And sure, Arkansas has to deal with Alabama and LSU, but now that Urban Meyer is rolling at Ohio State, Wisconsin will have a similarly formidable division rival.
But here in the SEC, a straightforward formula has developed. Win the league (or in the case of Alabama in 2011, just finish second in the division), head to the BCS championship game, and then do what you must with whichever sacrificial lamb the rest of the country offers. And while Arkansas may never be able to outrecruit and outplay Alabama or LSU over the long term, it can position itself for the rare year, like Auburn's in 2010, when talent and schedule and luck align, resulting in a shot at the championship. Then there's the upcoming playoff, which figures to include two SEC teams most seasons. "That was a big factor," says Bielema. "That gives us an even better shot."
But the final math on this is actually quite simple. Players are attracted to competition, and facilities, and the chance to stay near home. Coaches are attracted to competition, and resources, and the chance to earn lots of money. For these reasons, Bielema should have better players and coaches at Arkansas than he did at Wisconsin. And with better players and coaches, he will have a better chance at winning it all.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:34 am to weagle99
Not sure why the article calls Mike Gundy unproven. He seems pretty damn proven to me. When you compare the Big 12 to the Big 10 I think he should be considered equal to Bielema at least.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:34 am to hawgfaninc
Ermagerd. He curses.
He couldn't have coached at Auburn anyway.
:godthing:
He couldn't have coached at Auburn anyway.
:godthing:
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 11:35 am
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:35 am to weagle99
quote:Self-imposed. Had too much confidence in the preseason national champion Omahogs.
Banned?
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:38 am to Bob Ag
I have to say, after Houston Nutt, I always like it when we have a coach who curses and drinks. There's just something unnatural about a man who doesn't.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:38 am to hawgfaninc
you guys were much better at being off season champs than you are at convincing anyone that your coach is worth a damn.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:39 am to wmr
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He couldn't have coached at Auburn anyway
You got this right...but not for the reason you're suggesting.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:39 am to hawgfaninc
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And while Arkansas will never be able to outrecruit and outplay Alabama or LSU over the long term
Must have been a typograpichal error in that article.....I kid I kid.
You buys are excited with this dude and that is good for your program.....we will see in a few years if the finished results match the excitement level.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:40 am to Politiceaux
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Lat.
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Banned?
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Self-imposed.
Politiceaux has a crush on lat he would know
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:42 am to piggidyphish
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You got this right...but not for the reason you're suggesting.
umkay.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:51 am to wmr
Sorry hogs the dude had Russell Wilson and could not make it to the natty.He is in for a rude awakening come fall.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 11:57 am to piggidyphish
quote:I'll hear alot of shite about Arkansas. Our program is average as hell. Our recruiting pool is worse. But nobody can say with a straight face that we didn't make a good hire. That's bullshite.
convincing anyone that your coach is worth a damn.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 12:00 pm to Dawg in Beaumont
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Not sure why the article calls Mike Gundy unproven. He seems pretty damn proven to me. When you compare the Big 12 to the Big 10 I think he should be considered equal to Bielema at least.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 12:04 pm to wartiger2004
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Sorry hogs the dude had Russell Wilson and could not make it to the natty.He is in for a rude awakening come fall.
Posted on 6/21/13 at 12:04 pm to DaleDenton
Bert leaving Wisconsin for Arkansas because of Meyer was like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire with Saban and Miles.Dude is in over his big bloated head.Plus he is a pussy for wanting to slow down the HUNH. 
bitch
bitchPosted on 6/21/13 at 12:04 pm to DaleDenton
I'd consider Gundy an equal to Bielema. I'd rather have Bielema because like Gus, I'm not sure Gundy's shtick can work on a regular basis in the SEC, but I'd definitely consider them equals.
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