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re: Whose football program has more potential... Tenn or UGA?

Posted on 5/25/11 at 7:47 pm to
Posted by bottagetta80
Wrightsville Beach, NC
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 7:47 pm to
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the question is potential not history


True - I've been drinking....

Potential, I still say UT until UGA finally runs Richt off and gets a coach that won't underachieve with all of that ridiculous talent!
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 7:48 pm to
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:03 pm to
Its definitely UGA. Kirby is gonna kill it there
Posted by tylerdurden24
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:04 pm to
Unfortunately only the Board of Regents really has the power to can Adams, and them and Adams are all BFFF. But in the end the boosters influence the program, and I think enough of them have voiced a great displeasure in the on field result when compared with constantly rising ticket prices that Adams has to shy away from throwing his wait around the AD (because he certainly isn't going to lower ticket prices)
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:05 pm to
Posted by tennfanatic
Greeneville, Tennessee
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:07 pm to
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No Sir! UT has a much richer tradition than UGA, no disrespect to UGA, but it's the truth. UT only trails UA in the SEC in past success!







Thank you Sir! It seems like these days everyone thinks football was invented 10 years ago. Historically its Alabama and Tennessee. And its not even close. Good to see a non homer fan on this site. Now recently our program has been shite and even I realize that.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:08 pm to
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i wanted richt gone after colorado but after UCF i was astonished we would allow him to return but now i will say McGarity was right. fire him and you risk everything. keep him and if he succeeds you were the genius. if he fails then you say hey we tried and you are the patient AD who now has time to make a proper hire. but if richt doesn't shite us a rainbow then McGarity better have had a plan that he started after UCF for finding us a new coach. and i expect the university to give him every available resource to do this. if we find a guy on saban or even patterson's level they better be ready to pay through the nose. its there fault for not having been better at hiring since dooley (and even maybe with dooley)



Mcgarity made it a point that he was going to just sit back and observe the first year. He publicly said he was going learn the ropes, meet the people, watch the teams play out and make notes and what needed immediate attention and what could wait until after the pertinent matters were handled. He is a Jeremy Foley disciple with an allegiance to UGA. He was here in the hey-day of the 80's. He knows what success at UGA looks like
Posted by tylerdurden24
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:09 pm to
I don't think anybody has really disputed that it's 1. Bama and 2. UT in terms of history on here
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:11 pm to
yea i think he is a good hire and i have faith in him. its the rest of the crooked infrastructure at georgia that scares me.

thats why i like to say clean house. fire basically everyone
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:11 pm to
quote:


No Sir! UT has a much richer tradition than UGA, no disrespect to UGA, but it's the truth. UT only trails UA in the SEC in past success!


Thank you Sir! It seems like these days everyone thinks football was invented 10 years ago. Historically its Alabama and Tennessee



I doubt anyone is disputing that

the question posed by the OP was about potential

the answer to that is probably UGA
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:11 pm to
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I don't think anybody has really disputed that it's 1. Bama and 2. UT in terms of history on here


he needs a hug

Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:13 pm to
Posted by smelvis
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

No Sir! UT has a much richer tradition than UGA


Meh.

Tennessee has one more conference title and 50 more wins, they have a more recent MNC, UGA has had a better decade.

UGA is 11th in all time wins and UT is 9th.

Tennessee is better, but the gap between UT and Bama is much bigger.

ETA: I think the answer is either/or. Tennessee has previously shown an ability to recruit well nationally, as well as within the state of Georgia. Which is vital for them.

UGA can recruit well in their own back yard, but if they don't have a decent season, that'll be harder this year, especially with limited schollies available.

Looks like UT has nice facilities (saying otherwise apparently causes all kind of hissy fits), but Athens > Knoxville. By a wide margin. And UGA's facilities aren't twice hammered dogshit, but they could use some work.

UGA is, outside of Texas and Notre Dame, the most profitable AD in the country though.

So there's plenty of money for upgrades, coaching buyouts, Cam-esque checks for the right guy.

This post was edited on 5/25/11 at 8:21 pm
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:17 pm to
It will be VERY interesting to see what happens if Richt is sent packing. If it is a firesale, you could see a lot of skeletons come out of some closets with regards to the inner politics of the AD and President's office (nothing like paying players, but people using their influence to basically hamper what is best for the football program in favor of making money). But if it is done gracefully, with the option of a few coaches to stick around in case the new HC wants to keep them on staff (I would favor this in the case of John Lily and Grantham. Lily is a solid coach and a great recruiter and I don't want to see our defense get fricked with again when it's currently on the upswing)
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:20 pm to
i like lilly. grantham, we'll see. i think it 100% vital to keep the defense at 3-4 because why switch over and then go right back.

i think it may be bad because after the bad taste in the fans mouth i think if they can't justify keeping any assistants that most will be booted. if that makes sense. basically a lot of UGA's good ole boys are gonna be on the way out. this process could be real smooth and great for the program.

but we both no it may and perhaps probably will get really ugly. shite will come out, mud will be slung, it won't be pretty. i hate what all will happen and how it will set us back but its like a band aid, just rip it off
Posted by TheLoupGarou
Benton, LA
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:26 pm to
UT has nowhere to go but up. Georgia has always been pretty good, but not good enough. With Florida having a down cycle, Georgia should have made their move to the top, but couldn't, and USC is now in the East's driver's seat. I don't see Georgia doing any more than they have done for the last few years, but I think we will see UT under young gun Derek Dooley regain some of their lost dignity in the SEC East. They need to move quickly, because in another three or four years, Muschamps will have Florida back on top.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:29 pm to
You know, I take solace in the fact that come what may, we have plenty of money to put out whatever fires may arise
This post was edited on 5/25/11 at 8:30 pm
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:32 pm to
thats the only reason i am completely fine with it. because they have enough cash to throw at everyone that people should be in a good mood. gonna set back any projects but i mean everything is pretty damn nice.

aside from expanding sanford there isn't anything left. and i mean they will have to win a title before we need that.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:33 pm to
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UT has nowhere to go but up. Georgia has always been pretty good, but not good enough. With Florida having a down cycle, Georgia should have made their move to the top, but couldn't, and USC is now in the East's driver's seat. I don't see Georgia doing any more than they have done for the last few years, but I think we will see UT under young gun Derek Dooley regain some of their lost dignity in the SEC East. They need to move quickly, because in another three or four years, Muschamps will have Florida back on top.


ok, so why won't we do anything? i can understand you saying this if ya had some reasoning for either.

also i think UT fans will agree that this isn't UFs division and they will hardly dominate it from now on
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37444 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:45 pm to
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also i think UT fans will agree that this isn't UFs division and they will hardly dominate it from now on


dominate?

dunno... but they will win it more than anyone else does IMO

unless UGA emerges as a very well run football program (and starts beating Florida more)
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