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re: Who's the best SEC QB at this point in the season?
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:20 pm to woodhog14
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:20 pm to woodhog14
quote:Wilson has about 30 more pass attempts than Bray which is approximately 1 games worth of attempts more.
Tyler didn't play in the 2nd half of our first two games...so basically he's only played in 4 games as well.
Bray is probably a little better right now, but Wilson will finish with better numbers now that Hunter is out.
This post was edited on 10/6/11 at 5:20 pm
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:21 pm to PrideOfTheSouthland
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So... I guess Bray's stats are really for 3.25 games instead of 4.
What's your next excuse?
This is hilarious. Stats cannot be compared because of UT's schedule at this point.
Bray has better stats than Tom Brady....does that make him better....despite Brady facing NFL defenses.
This post was edited on 10/6/11 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:24 pm to DrSEC
Keep trying to search for any excuse avaliable.
You can't change the fact Bray has more TDs, less INTs, averages more yards per game, has a high QB rating, and has a higher completion %.
And as someone metioned earlier he's done half of that without his number one target.
You can't change the fact Bray has more TDs, less INTs, averages more yards per game, has a high QB rating, and has a higher completion %.
And as someone metioned earlier he's done half of that without his number one target.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:24 pm to WDE24
Wilson is coached by Bobby Petrino, the mentor of Stefan LaFors. Bray is coached by Jim Chaney, the mentor of Drew Brees and Kyle Orton and Curtis Painter, three NFL starters.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:24 pm to RebFeBrees
Bray
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:25 pm to PrideOfTheSouthland
My bad...you're correct. Bray is the best QB in the SEC of all time. 
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:27 pm to Volmanac
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Curtis Painter, three NFL starters.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:29 pm to Volmanac
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Wilson is coached by Bobby Petrino, the mentor of Stefan LaFors. Bray is coached by Jim Chaney, the mentor of Drew Brees and Kyle Orton and Curtis Painter, three NFL starters.
Don't forget that Petrino also coached Jake Plummer, Jason Campbell, and Mark Brunell. All were/are NFL starters as well. What's your point?
This post was edited on 10/6/11 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:31 pm to PrideOfTheSouthland
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Keep trying to search for any excuse avaliable.
You can't change the fact Bray has more TDs, less INTs, averages more yards per game, has a high QB rating, and has a higher completion %.
And as someone metioned earlier he's done half of that without his number one target.
Seriously? Level of competition doesn't matter? Again....you can be impressed by 50 yard flea flickers against Montana but I am not.
Let him have ONE good game against a decent opponent before you crown him. Not saying he can't do it....I am just saying he has not done it.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:42 pm to DrSEC
I know your type and this website is full of them. No matter what this kid does, you'll manage find something that shows he "doesn't quite have it yet."
Posted on 10/6/11 at 9:25 pm to PrideOfTheSouthland
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I know your type and this website is full of them. No matter what this kid does, you'll manage find something that shows he "doesn't quite have it yet."
And I know your type....the kind of fan who wants to crown each young qb as the next Peyton Manning and every young running back as the next Hershel Walker.
I believe in a player proving his skill set. The bottom line is Bray might be the next great QB but right now all he has proven is he is good against inferior competition.
He has started one game outside of Tennessee. He struggles in that game. He showed flashes of greatness and then looked like a bottom-tier qb on the next throw.
For those reasons, I am not yet a believer. However, I am not ready to say he is not GOING to be an elite qb.
Show me the game that should convince any non-UT fan he is the real deal....I am waiting.
I will be there this weekend, I hope he does play well because the SEC has had very few elite passing qb's over the last decade.
Posted on 10/7/11 at 5:16 pm to DrSEC
Couldn't have been a more butt hurt post.
You don't become a good or great QB in one game. It's created in several games. So far he's played 1/3 of the season and he leads in nearly all statistical categories as a QB. You can't deny that.
There isn't even an arguement. Its not as if, Wilson or Murray beat Bray in several categories. They bet him in one, an thats due to playing more games. It's not as if Wilson has more TD and less INTs, or a high QB rating. There simply just isn't a case for it.
You don't become a good or great QB in one game. It's created in several games. So far he's played 1/3 of the season and he leads in nearly all statistical categories as a QB. You can't deny that.
There isn't even an arguement. Its not as if, Wilson or Murray beat Bray in several categories. They bet him in one, an thats due to playing more games. It's not as if Wilson has more TD and less INTs, or a high QB rating. There simply just isn't a case for it.
This post was edited on 10/7/11 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 10/7/11 at 6:57 pm to dj30
Kodi Burns
Posted on 10/7/11 at 7:10 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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Now that I think of it, I'm not sure what Lee has accomplished that Mccarron (sp?) hasn't.
800 YDs(roughly) 7 TDs - 1 INTs
900 YDs(roughly) 4 TDs - 2 INTs
Posted on 10/7/11 at 7:14 pm to PrideOfTheSouthland
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Couldn't have been a more butt hurt post.
You don't become a good or great QB in one game. It's created in several games. So far he's played 1/3 of the season and he leads in nearly all statistical categories as a QB. You can't deny that.
There isn't even an arguement. Its not as if, Wilson or Murray beat Bray in several categories. They bet him in one, an thats due to playing more games. It's not as if Wilson has more TD and less INTs, or a high QB rating. There simply just isn't a case for it.
This makes me sad that my wife is a public school teacher in TN.....this is the product. Let me type it real s-l-0-w
Bray could be great.
Bray has not proven he is great.
Bray has only played junior high teams.
In Bray’s starts against Memphis, Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Montana, Cincinnati, and Buffalo, he has passed for 23 touchdowns and only four interceptions.
In his two games against the Tar Heels and the Gators, the only two defenses with a pulse, he had seven touchdown passes and five interceptions. Moreover, there were at least four dropped interceptions against Florida.
^^^^Not saying he sucks or will not be great. However, he has been mediocre at best at his only two challenges.
Posted on 10/7/11 at 7:39 pm to DrSEC
Tyler Bray
Florida 12th ranked pass D
Buffalo 52nd ranked pass D
Cincinnati 104th ranked pass D
Montana FCS
Average Ranking: 56
Tyler Wilson
Alabama 5th ranked pass D
New Mexico 109th ranked pass D
Troy 111th ranked pass D
Texas A&M 120th ranked pass D
Missouri State FCS
Average Ranking: 86.25
Wilson has gone up against a slate full of elite secondaries, alright.
Bray has played much tougher pass defenses, and has put up better stats in every category.
After seeing this, there is no defense for ranking Wilson ahead of Bray. None.
Florida 12th ranked pass D
Buffalo 52nd ranked pass D
Cincinnati 104th ranked pass D
Montana FCS
Average Ranking: 56
Tyler Wilson
Alabama 5th ranked pass D
New Mexico 109th ranked pass D
Troy 111th ranked pass D
Texas A&M 120th ranked pass D
Missouri State FCS
Average Ranking: 86.25
Wilson has gone up against a slate full of elite secondaries, alright.
Bray has played much tougher pass defenses, and has put up better stats in every category.
After seeing this, there is no defense for ranking Wilson ahead of Bray. None.
This post was edited on 10/7/11 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:04 pm to volfan30
Aaron Murray is the only proven qb. He has not been lights out this season but he is #1 because he has a full resume.
Wilson is second by default. He does have Auburn, Alabama, and Texas A&M on his resume.
Bray very well could be the best qb by the end of the season. However, he has played mediocre at best against the top two schools he has played, correct?
Wilson is second by default. He does have Auburn, Alabama, and Texas A&M on his resume.
Bray very well could be the best qb by the end of the season. However, he has played mediocre at best against the top two schools he has played, correct?
Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:11 pm to DrSEC
Wilson is not second by default, he played poorly against Alabama and Texas A&M has the worst pass defense in the nation. He has one good game, it was off the bench against a slightly above average AU defense.
Bray has played against much better competition this season and has put up much better numbers.
Murray is a decent QB, but like Bray, has not beaten a single quality team.
Bray has played against much better competition this season and has put up much better numbers.
Murray is a decent QB, but like Bray, has not beaten a single quality team.
This post was edited on 10/7/11 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:19 pm to volfan30
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Murray is a decent QB, but like Bray, has not beaten a single quality team. He is not in the same league as Bray or Wilson.
Wins by a quarterback are overrated. He does not play defense or special teams. The thought that Bray has been better thus far in his career is nothing short of laughable.
Murray stunk it up last game. No doubt. However, despite breaking in all new running backs and wide receivers he has already totaled 15 touchdowns. That is playing 3 sec games and an OOC against Boise State.
I can point to quality games against quality competition with Murray and Wilson....can you with Bray?
Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:21 pm to Elleshoe
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