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re: Who wins the Georgia vs LSU game in Athens on September 28 ?

Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:33 pm to
Sorry I ruined the troll party

carry on
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:34 pm to
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What? Les Miles inherited a 4 loss team. Not some great team. Also at LSU Saban lost AT LEAST 3 games a year , except once. It's not like Saban had LSU as some unstoppable force.

Is today's Saban the same coach that brought LSU back into the national spotlight? Do you not think Saban has improved as a coach, or do you attribute all of his success to coaching at Alabama? While Saban lost at least 3 games in all but one season, could some of that be attributed to him developing as a head coach and rebuilding a fallen LSU program? I would hope Miles could do better considering LSU was practically set when Miles became coach. LSU had recently won two SEC titles and a BCSNCG. I see that several winning scores were ugly in 2004. Where do you think Saban's mind was that season? Was he focused on staying at LSU, or was he already thinking of trying the NFL? Also, he had won his first national championship the previous season. How do you maintain success? I didn't watch football game back them, but if I had to take a guess, it'd be that Saban was still learning back then and may have been distracted.

Les Miles is a good coach, but he walked into a good situation. I think his walking into LSU may be similar to Mike Gundy's inheritance of an Oklahoma State program that Miles had improved.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:37 pm to
Ya know, I inherited a really bad arse guitar from my grandpa.

And I still can't play that shite.

Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:37 pm to
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Richt played in a MNC at some point?


Well, we should have played LSU in 2007, but the media wouldn't let it happen...then they allowed Bama to play in the game in practically the same scenario in 2011. That's just how much more highly the SEC is thought of now.

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What?


By their respective fan bases
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:38 pm to
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Les Miles is a good coach, but he walked into a good situation.


Maintaining a top program is infinitely more difficult than building one. Every single year you have new schools with new hotshot coaches and players looking to knock you off your pedestal. And on top of that if your Les Miles you have to deal with the "yeah but Saban nonsense from the outside as well as idiots in your own fanbase.

I'm not at all trying to discount anything Saban did, but to act like everything has been peaches and cream for Les Miles is just ignorant. For many he get's none of the credit for the wins and all of the blame for the losses.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:38 pm to


Its also absurd to say that Mett will be a decent QB despite him proving that in the SEC last year once our Oline settled in. The SEC rant is doing so much wishing and hoping for LSU to fall they are blinded by facts.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:38 pm to
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Well, we should have played LSU in 2007, but the media wouldn't let it happen...


OSU would have curb stomped UGA
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:39 pm to
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The SEC rant is doing so much wishing and hoping for LSU to fall they are blinded by facts.


it's like this every single offseason. I'll never forget how we were supposed to take a big step back in 2011 because there was no way we could replace PP7, Nevis and Minter
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:39 pm to
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Adam Banks


Are your reading comprehension skills poor or are you just ignorant?

I've already said that I expected the LSU D to reload twice in this thread...I just don't expect them completely shut down Gurley, Marshall, and the entire group of upper classmen OL, TE, and FB that return. That would be unreal.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:39 pm to
I honestly think they pray at night that LSU would be wiped out by a hurricane so they could start a thread about it
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:39 pm to
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Apparently I AM missing your point, since it was you who said Mettenberger's numbers weren't all that bad and he did pretty well. Did I miss something, or weren't you insinuating he was close to Murray?

No, I think that was someone else. I merely posted his stats and said you couldn't draw any conclusions from his performances, since he was terrible in some wins, and good in some losses, and terrible in some losses and good in some wins.

My main point all along is that LSU hasn't relied on the QB position since 2009 - and even that didn't turn out so well.

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The game turned on a VERY questionable Excessive celebration penalty against AJ Green.

No, I was referring to the 2011 SECCG when LSU wasn't doing shite until the running game finally wore down the UGA defense, and LSU passed for less tha 200 yards in an eventual 42-10 blowout. The game you're referring to was back in 2009.

LSU doesn't need a QB if they're running the ball effectively and playing good defense and special teams.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:40 pm to
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That would be unreal.


Not really. We do that on the reg to the Johnny Manziels and the Tyler Wilson' and whoever else you got pretty much.
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:40 pm to
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OSU would have curb stomped UGA


Is that even an argument that could be won? GTFO
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:41 pm to
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Well, we should have played LSU in 2007, but the media wouldn't let it happen


Richt choking away the division is what prevented that from happening.

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then they allowed Bama to play in the game in practically the same scenario in 2011.


I cant believe Im defending bama for playing in that game but Bama was 11-1 OSU was 11-1

tOSU was 11-1 UGA was 10-2 and got destroyed by the division winner Tennessee on National TV.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71883 posts
Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:41 pm to
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Is that even an argument that could be won?


No it's just my opinion. And I stand by it. I don't trust Richt on any big scale.

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GTFO


IN
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:43 pm to
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IN


Bona fide badass
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71883 posts
Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:43 pm to
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Bona fide badass


oh stop it i'm blushing over here
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:44 pm to
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Ya know, I inherited a really bad arse guitar from my grandpa.

And I still can't play that shite.

That's not how it works. I'm not claiming that LSU made Miles. He was a decent coach whom had found a great program. An elite college football school still needs a good or great coach to succeed. See USC, Florida State, Miami, Texas, Oklahoma, and Michigan. Those schools are talented and have a great history, but what have they done lately? If you assemble a good staff at those schools, you could better results. Michigan has never sniffed a BCSNCG. Texas has been down since Colt McCoy got hurt. Oklahoma and Florida State haven't won a national championship in over a decade. Miami disappeared after they moved to the ACC. Sanctions are hurting USC, but a 7-6 season is inexcusable; that lies on the coaching staff. LSU, Alabama, and Florida have gotten it done because they've assembled excellent coaching staffs and great head coaches.
Posted by 167back
Dos Gris
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:44 pm to
Of LSU's top 15 tacklers on the '12 defense EIGHT return for '13. That's over 50%. Return a LB with 100+ tackles.

LSU return All SEC preseason award winners at all three levels of it's "D".

How many return in uga's top 15 tacklers from '12? How many preseason all SEC picks?

bama's front seven was nasty last year but, LSU was able to move the ball on them. Most yards ever given up by a saban coached bama "D" in conference. Even more than that wonderful uga "O". Tigers had more rush yards and even MORE passing yards VS the tide than what uga and murray did in SECCG.
Posted by Paul Allen
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 3:44 pm to
Georgia by 10
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