re: Who will win the SEC first: Mullen or Orgeron?

Allyn McKeen. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you.

Record: 65–19–3
Won the Sec in 1941.
Won the Orange Bowl in 1940.
Went undefeated in 1940.

Would have won a national championship in 1941 if not for Pearl Harbor.

But Tell Dan thanks for the Gator Bowl Trophy.

Yea we’ll see come Nov 2. We gonna kick you mutts arse and you’ll be calling for Kirby’s head

Here is where you really have me confused. You keep saying that Mullen was "the best coach in Mississippi State history". While I don't agree with you (it's probably Darrelll Royal), I also don't understand the relevance? MSU has had a litany of really terrible and forgettable coaches. Mullen could be hands down the greatest coach ever for MSU and still be considered awful.

You want us to say that Mullen is better than:

Sylvester Croom
Rockey Felker
Emory Bellard
Bob Tyler
Charles Shira
Paul Davis, and
Wade Walker?

Okay, sure, you win. Mullen was a LOT better than all of those guys. What does that have to do with the chances of him winning an SEC title at Florida?

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kay, sure, you win. Mullen was a LOT better than all of those guys. What does that have to do with the chances of him winning an SEC title at Florida

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Not one thing I just wanted you to say it. Thanks.

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all he did for your garbage program.

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I've never seen a fanbase get triggered so easily when someone gives them facts. Enjoy the disappointment Dan train, he never fails.

I think what he’s already done at Florida kinda matters. I threw in the State stuff just to ruffle your feathers. The question was what has he done to deserve the hype, not how good he will be at Florida. What he did at State is relevant to that question.

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Serious question? He’s the best coach in Mississippi State history, and won 10 games and a New Year’s Day Bowl by three TD’s in year one with a 4 win team.

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Even if he was the best coach in Mississippi State History, what does that and him winning 10 games really mean? Mullen iirc was the 8th highest paid coach in 2018 with some of the worst stats. Of course Scott Frost would be the worst (out of the top 10 paid coaches), but some could argue that he is a better coach than Mullen. Over the last 5 years Mullen has a .641 winning percentage.

I get that he has done great stuff at Mississippi and it shows even more now with how Moorhead did last season, but lets not act like hes the greatest thing since sliced bread. He still has SEC coaches that are ahead of him who are better.

Will he do well at Florida? Probably. MacElwain won the division twice. Of course the East was down then, but that does not make Florida an instant division champion with him taking over. Also, looking at your schedule that he faced last year, its not the toughest thing out there. I always here florida fans bitch about roster issues, but every team always has roster issues.

Even if Mullen made it to the SEC Championship game, he would get destroyed by whoever the West opponent is. This is because he does have some roster issues. One more thing that Florida fans point out is how young he is. If you fire McElwain after winning his division twice, what will happen to Dan in a few years when he doesnt win it once?

I know I am a Mullen hater and its for good reasons. I have also given credit to him when it was due, like last season when I did not think he would do that well. My point of this long story is that he is not as good as some make him out to be. He did great at MSU, had a great turnaround at Florida, but he will not be going to the CFP or winning the SEC anytime soon. Id be willing to wager that he will get fired first or move on.

Mullen. He’s in the easier side of the conference, and has a better resume as a coach as far as his past coaching jobs at other schools. Coach O has potential at LSU but LSU has the tougher road, so I’m going with Mullen based off that. But for the record, imo, Mullen is a better head coach than O, and there’s not much to dispute that, and Mullen would be more successful at LSU than O.

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now I am a Mullen hater and its for good reasons. I have also given credit to him when it was due, like last season when I did not think he would do that well. My point of this long story is that he is not as good as some make him out to be. He did great at MSU, had a great turnaround at Florida, but he will not be going to the CFP or winning the SEC anytime soon. Id be willing to wager that he will get fired first or move on

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You would probably be on the right side of that wager, it’s hard to win a championship, and you’re right he’s not the greatest thing since sliced bread. I just find it amusing when people act like he hasn’t accomplished anything, if he’s still never won anything at Florida in 4-5 years then fine talk your shite. Judging him and saying he’s not elite just by his stint at MSU is ridiculous. All I’m saying is we don’t know what Mullen’s ceiling is, we will see soon, I don’t know if he’ll ever be a good enough recruiter to compete with Saban or Dabo, but I like how many people he has proven wrong so far.