Who last longer at their current school. Mullens or Moreheads

Mullen won 10 games and finished at #7 a year after taking over a team that went 4-7. He's ahead of schedule. People thought they were going to suck last year after they lost to UK, but they rebounded nicely with Ws against State, LSU and Michigan in the bowl.

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MSU just wants to make a liberty bowl

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this is more accurate in describing our fans

If Moorhead has a 10 win season he will bolt. Mullen has three more years to get to the SEC championship game, or he's fired.

I'm going with Moorhead lasting longer.

Never heard of a Mullens or a Moreheads

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MSU, however, is experiencing the beginning of a decline

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What do you base that on? Our current coach has a higher winning pct. at State than Mullen ever had, and is recruiting at a higher level....where is the decline?

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MSU just wants to make a liberty bowl


this is more accurate in describing our fans

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Ahhhexactly.

When you don't get "Croomed" because you ARE "Croomed," then you'll make sure that you never have to go live in the slums again. We know what it's like to, if even for a short time, keep up with the NCAAFB Jones's (and on more than one occasion, including a stint in Atlanta), and we know what it's like to live in a tarp too.

Meaning, we know success & aren't rattled by defeat, but in defeat, we stay vigilant so that we don't regress back to the dark years: Where huffing human chit from a paper sack at the base of a trash heap was the only way to get a fix, have some fun and to drown out all the people who wouldn't STFU about how "noble" it was that Croom was our dear leader and how thankful we should be for that blessing.

The days of filling our empty bellies with whatever we could seine out the AD's overflowing sugar ditch are over: While he may have a longer rope than DM does, Joe Moorehead will be fired if he continually chits the bed and/or if we stagnate, i.e., we don't see an occasional run that pumps some adrenaline and/or sunshine into the fanbase.

Outside of the "re-setting of the clock" that comes from changing coaching staffs, aside from the fact that I like JM and want to see anybody who's busting their arse do well and succeed, the truth of the matter is that, if the aforementioned criteria are not met within a reasonable timeframe (and given the circumstances at the time), then JM will have 3 choices: jump ship on his own, be compelled to do it or else, or be given his walking papers without even having the former options.

A Liberty Bowl or no bowl or 2 is just fine and dandy, but we have tasted the honey (and not just in 2014) and it is sweet, but we've also tasted the aroma in the back of our throat that emanates from a dead body trapped under a smoldering mountain of trash: The option of him riding the ship all the way down into the abyss and taking us with him is no longer on the table.

Ain't nobody got time for that.

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What do you base that on? Our current coach has a higher winning pct. at State than Mullen ever had, and is recruiting at a higher level....where is the decline?

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The reason he has a higher winning percentage is because unlike Mullen, he didn't have to build up from trash-- so Mullen's record started out behind the 8 ball.

Moorhead inherited a team that we spent all last offseason listening to MSU fans pitch as a dark horse contender to win the SEC West- despite starting the season ranked in both polls, and ended it unranked-- and they finished 8-5. The quality of play across the roster is visibly down, as are expectations of MSU.


Its a decline that will become self evident as this year progresses, to any who doubt it.

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quality of play across the roster is visibly down,

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No, it isn't. Our offense will be much better this year, while the defense will drop off from best in the nation due to losing 3 first round draft picks.

Just because Moorhead did not live up to the lofty expectations of some homer fans does not mean his first season was a failure.

Moorhead has made this years roster much better than what Mullen left behind. If Mullen were still our coach, we would be looking at yet another 6-6 season. With JoMo I think we win 7 or 8.

That is not a decline.