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re: Who is the most overpaid on the list?
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:31 pm to DaronTexas
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:31 pm to DaronTexas
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Thats apple to oranges.
No it isn't. A dollar is a dollar and spends the same everywhere. Tom is making 67% of what Jimbo makes with 1/5th the resume.
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One coach has ties to texas the other doesnt.
And so I would assume that means the "coach with ties to texas" is ahead in recruiting this cycle? Oh he isn't? That actually means nothing? Color me surprised.
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A&M is obviously trying to pave its own path. Which is good.
And yet the two programs still measure each other by the same yardsticks. Tom is making $5 million a year because Charlie did, and Charlie did because dammit Texas wasn't going to pay their black coach less than our black coach and risk looking like racists.
As long as that kind of shite goes into the decision process on both sides our "own path" is nothing more than rhetoric.
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Ut still has the brand advantage any non bias Texan will tell you.
I would say that Texas has more brand recognition nationally and internationally. That isn't even debatable.
With that sad, I think the A&M brand is in better shape right now because we are seen as some upstart Texas team with little history (read: baggage) while the whole country basically blames Texas and their greed (read: Longhorn Network) for fricking up the Big 12.
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:32 pm to TheCaterpillar
Orgeron sucks balls and I hate him
But his one year as a head coach at LSU he was the 10th highest paid coach and he finished as the 4th highest ranked team in the conference
Hard to really argue he has been overpaid at this point in his LSU tenure
But his one year as a head coach at LSU he was the 10th highest paid coach and he finished as the 4th highest ranked team in the conference
Hard to really argue he has been overpaid at this point in his LSU tenure
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:32 pm to cardboardboxer
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None.
If someone was willing to pay them that, then they aren't overpaid. They are paid the exact amount the free market says they should be paid.
There is a bunch of fricking communists on this board who hide the butthurt about how their AD won't spend top $ on a top coach behind some Marx bullshite.
This.
People get triggered about what coaches make. The market determines the salary and the schools are more than willing to pay.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:38 pm to Billy Mays
My favorite is when someone says "X coach isn't worth Y" when it isn't their money, and they will never even make a fraction of Y in a single year in their life.
I mean if some Stanford nerd wants to talk to me about how "overpaying coaches show our misplaced priorities as a society" I will listen, but I don't want to hear that shite from a fanbase that prides itself on demanding other fans suck male animal penises. Their priorities are already fricked up and its hypocritical to pretend otherwise.
I mean if some Stanford nerd wants to talk to me about how "overpaying coaches show our misplaced priorities as a society" I will listen, but I don't want to hear that shite from a fanbase that prides itself on demanding other fans suck male animal penises. Their priorities are already fricked up and its hypocritical to pretend otherwise.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:44 pm to cardboardboxer
quote:I agree with you to an extent, and disagree to an extent
My favorite is when someone says "X coach isn't worth Y" when it isn't their money, and they will never even make a fraction of Y in a single year in their life.
I mean if some Stanford nerd wants to talk to me about how "overpaying coaches show our misplaced priorities as a society" I will listen, but I don't want to hear that shite from a fanbase that prides itself on demanding other fans suck male animal penises. Their priorities are already fricked up and its hypocritical to pretend otherwise.
Did I want Jimbo in 2015? Yes of course
1. I hate joe alleva, I mean I loathe him and have personally dealt with him, but I can't blame him from his position if he refused to give jimbo 7.5 million a year. From his job title, being worth it matters. To joe blow fan it doesnt, but to the AD it should matter, and I think 7.5 million is a no go for an AD
2. It is alot easier for an AD to negotiate with a coach who is in a losing season and unranked compared to a coach in a top 10 season.....
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:47 pm to LSU316
Orgeron is worth at least 25-30 bucks an hour for entertainment purposes alone
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:47 pm to lsupride87
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Orgeron sucks balls and I hate him
But his one year as a head coach at LSU he was the 10th highest paid coach and he finished as the 4th highest ranked team in the conference
To follow up on this: I know it's amusing to shite all over Orgeron, and I'm not sold that he is a long-term solution, but since he became interim HC, LSU is 10-4 in SEC play. That is the exact same record as Kirby Smart in that time frame. It is one game behind Gus. The next closest record in that time frame is UF at 8-6. So, at the moment, and given what other SEC coaches are paid, it seems like a pretty reasonable salary.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:49 pm to Tigerpaul1969
but that mississippi state game tho
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:50 pm to Tigerpaul1969
The SEC Rant chose to forget that Kirby's first year went 4-4 in the SEC East with losses to Vanderbilt, Ole Miss and Georgia Tech.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:54 pm to koreandawg
My take
Obviously Saban isn't overpaid. Maybe underpaid.
Jimbo is the only other with a natty on the list, so he should be below Saban but higher than everyone else. Still think he may not live up to the contract though.
Smart will not be considered to be overpaid after the next two seasons.
Malzahn is the one that I make no sense of. The difference between he and Mark Richt in their last five seasons is that he won the SEC in 2013 and Richt fell just short in 2012. Actually, MR was more consistent on a season to season basis.
Mullen's contract is understandable even if the Gator's regret it. Proved himself good at a lesser school that's hard to win at. That's essentially how you do it in the coaching profession most of the time.
I consider Muschamp and Stoops average coaches so them being in the middle is about right.
Considering what O has done in two years compared with his colleagues, his pay is about right, possibly underpaid. The buyout is ridiculous though.
Tennessee paid Pruitt that amount to start because they are Tennessee and have to look like they made a great hire even if they didn't.
Why Arkansas has to pay that out to a first year coach I have no idea. They are Arkansas, no one expects that.
The others are what they are. MSU may have gotten the steal of the bunch if Moorhead can coach as well as he recruits.
Obviously Saban isn't overpaid. Maybe underpaid.
Jimbo is the only other with a natty on the list, so he should be below Saban but higher than everyone else. Still think he may not live up to the contract though.
Smart will not be considered to be overpaid after the next two seasons.
Malzahn is the one that I make no sense of. The difference between he and Mark Richt in their last five seasons is that he won the SEC in 2013 and Richt fell just short in 2012. Actually, MR was more consistent on a season to season basis.
Mullen's contract is understandable even if the Gator's regret it. Proved himself good at a lesser school that's hard to win at. That's essentially how you do it in the coaching profession most of the time.
I consider Muschamp and Stoops average coaches so them being in the middle is about right.
Considering what O has done in two years compared with his colleagues, his pay is about right, possibly underpaid. The buyout is ridiculous though.
Tennessee paid Pruitt that amount to start because they are Tennessee and have to look like they made a great hire even if they didn't.
Why Arkansas has to pay that out to a first year coach I have no idea. They are Arkansas, no one expects that.
The others are what they are. MSU may have gotten the steal of the bunch if Moorhead can coach as well as he recruits.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:55 pm to koreandawg
Jimbo Fisher Texas A&M $7.5 million
Dan Mullen Florida $6.3 million
All three overpaid. Fisher doesnt deserve more $$$ than Saban and Mullen earning 6+ mil is laughable
Dan Mullen Florida $6.3 million
All three overpaid. Fisher doesnt deserve more $$$ than Saban and Mullen earning 6+ mil is laughable
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:57 pm to AuburnTigers
Gus was 1 second away from being fired in 2016.
After blowing a 20 point lead to Ed Orgeron in 2017, he got a raise..?
After blowing a 20 point lead to Ed Orgeron in 2017, he got a raise..?
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:57 pm to yatesdog38
I agree. That was inexcusable. Just losing to MSU is almost inexcusable, but to lose like that...no way.
But it was that loss and the Troy loss, and the response to those, that had me feeling positive about him. They could have definitely mailed the season in after those monstrosities. But they plowed ahead, had a great comeback win over Auburn, and moved the ball well against Bama. The bowl loss sucked all of the life out of the fanbase this offseason.
But it was that loss and the Troy loss, and the response to those, that had me feeling positive about him. They could have definitely mailed the season in after those monstrosities. But they plowed ahead, had a great comeback win over Auburn, and moved the ball well against Bama. The bowl loss sucked all of the life out of the fanbase this offseason.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:57 pm to koreandawg
Saban doesn't get paid enough
Posted on 7/2/18 at 4:01 pm to koreandawg
I thought Saban got paid 11 million per year ? I recall Jimbo being the third highest paid in cfb with Saban the highest
Posted on 7/2/18 at 4:04 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Saban's problem isn't with the administration who would pay him whatever he asks. It's the public perception, and the constant idiotic stories that would be on ESPN and the rest of the idiot media, if he got paid $20 mill/year. You know the ones: "Nation's priorities are out of whack" etc etc. Just give him free houses, cars and other assets and keep it out of the contract.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 4:07 pm to lsupride87
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and I think 7.5 million is a no go for an AD
Why?
LSU's AD made over $16 million in profit last year. LSU could afford two Jimbos and still make a profit.
Also the LSU football program made over $80 million each year the last three years. Does paying the #1 guy responsible for that figure less than 1/10th that number seem unreasonable? Doesn't to me.
There is no reward for being cheap in college football, no trophy for the program with the biggest profit at the end of the year.
All that matter is wins, and as Saban has shown if a coach brings in wins he will generate far more revenue than you can pay him.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 4:37 pm to Tigerpaul1969
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constant idiotic stories that would be on ESPN
Considering ESPN pays the SEC a shite ton, I doubt ESPN would say anything like that.
I mean they dont call it ESECPN for nothing.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 4:38 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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mean they dont call it ESECPN for nothing
Nobody calls it this
Posted on 7/2/18 at 4:56 pm to WG_Dawg
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Nobody calls it this
non SEC fans do.
It's quite funny actually.
We all bitch that they don't favor us. While Non SEC Fans bitch that they favor us too much.
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