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Posted on 4/29/19 at 4:22 pm to cyclingout
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Gilmore is a baller, and SCAR had some guys stick around the league for a while, but I don't think any of them were ever considered the best at their position.
So .... when Jonathan Joseph was named the best DB in the league two years running not too long ago and has earned $80 million during his stint in the NFL including five pro bowls .... does that count?
Not too long ago SC had 11 DBs on various rosters including Fred Bennet, Sheldon Richardson, Andre Goodman, Jonathan Joseph, and the list goes on and on. I’m actually forgetting a couple of first round draft picks. Let’s see, yeah, Gilmore is one. Donte is another .... he just retired, What was his last name. Donte Robinson?
I mean if we wanna go back even farther we can.
SC has had our share of very good DBs play a long time in the NFL but I just think LSU has had more. UF had a big run with mUSChamp and T-Rob recruits which U of SC is about to have the way they are recruiting DBs ... which in defending RPO offenses these days is so important, being able to play man to man .... but LSU under Cooper, just as we had under Coop, they’ve had a good run of DBs.
I remember when Danny Ford had some of the finest secondaries in the country year in and year out. Man he had some guys back there that could play. I’m actually golfing buddies with a couple of them as a matter of fact, still good guys.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 4:31 pm to scrooster
I'm not sure why anyone in this thread has mentioned the NFL. This is a topic about college football players.
If anyone wants to discuss the NFL, there should be another thread created for that.
It could be titled something like this:
List college teams whose drafted players have had the most success at "pick a position" in the NFL.
Or:
Which minor league team has fed the most successful players to the NFL and at what position were they successful at and which team does this the most.
I've never understood why when the question is asked about who the most successful players were in college, many people review their NFL stats to determine if they were good players in college.
Doesn't make a lot of sense.
If anyone wants to discuss the NFL, there should be another thread created for that.
It could be titled something like this:
List college teams whose drafted players have had the most success at "pick a position" in the NFL.
Or:
Which minor league team has fed the most successful players to the NFL and at what position were they successful at and which team does this the most.
I've never understood why when the question is asked about who the most successful players were in college, many people review their NFL stats to determine if they were good players in college.
Doesn't make a lot of sense.
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 4/29/19 at 4:33 pm to scrooster
Wait, who named Jonathan Joseph the best DB in the league? He never even made a first-team AP All Pro, just looked it up.
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 4/29/19 at 4:36 pm to TideHyde
quote:One of the most important requirements to be considered as one of the "U" positional colleges is by how many players of that position were drafted into the NFL.... hence, why the NFL is mentioned.
I'm not sure why anyone in this thread has mentioned the NFL. This is a topic about college football players.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 4:43 pm to jatebe
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One of the most important requirements to be considered as one of the "U" positional colleges is by how many players of that position were drafted into the NFL.... hence, why the NFL is mentioned.
Their performance in college is relevant because the topic asks posters to pick the college team that is QBU, RBU, etc...
For example, Alabama could have had 12 Heisman winners playing the position of linebacker who dominated the position in a supernatural, unreal way during the last 12 seasons. Upon entering the NFL, they could have all been immediate flops and total, year one failures.
Doesn't their performance in college still make Alabama LBU?
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 4/29/19 at 4:48 pm to TideHyde
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Upon entering the NFL, they could have all been immediate flops and total, year one failures.
Doesn't matter, it's about graduating from the U to the next level. What you do when you get there is on you.
Think about being a HS recruit. Are you going to go to the school that has produced one great at your position, or are you going to go to the school that sends players at your position to the NFL virtually every year?
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Doesn't their performance in college still make Alabama LBU?
Their performance in college is what will get them noticed by the NFL - and thus, drafted.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 4:50 pm to cyclingout
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Gilmore is a baller, and SCAR had some guys stick around the league for a while, but I don't think any of them were ever considered the best at their position.
This year PFF ranked Gilmore as the #1 CB and he was all pro
Posted on 4/29/19 at 4:52 pm to scrooster
Jonathan Joseph has only been to 2 pro bowls and was one time second team all pro.
Gilmore has already matched pro bowls and been named to first team all pro.
Gilmore has already matched pro bowls and been named to first team all pro.
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 4/29/19 at 4:58 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Their performance in college is what will get them noticed by the NFL - and thus, drafted.
So we are talking not about what college is QBU or LBU but which players from those colleges go on to dominate the NFL?
It's an off-topic thread. This is a college board.
Let's reverse it and take Bart Starr as an example. He basically sucked arse in college due to injuries, lack of playing time, coaches not playing him at appropriate times/piss poor coach, etc...
Yet, he went on to become one of the best QB's in the NFL's history. Does Alabama get to count his NFL performance in their tally when determining which "college" teams are QBU?
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 4/29/19 at 4:58 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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Jonathan Joseph has only been to 2 pro bowls and was one time second team all pro.
Gilmore has already matched pro bowls and been named to first team all pro.
Who am I thinking of then? Was named a franchise player with two different teams. I thought it was Joseph but apparently I am misrembering ... it wasn’t Bennet was it? Brown?
Posted on 4/29/19 at 5:11 pm to TideHyde
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Let's reverse it and take Bart Starr as an example. He basically sucked arse in college due to injuries, lack of playing time, coaches not playing him at appropriate times, etc...
Yet, he went on to become of the best QB's in the NFL's history. Does Alabama get to count his NFL performance in their tally when determining which "college" teams are QBU?
I don't know about anybody else, but I think Bama can claim Starr, Namath, Stabler as QBU.
Bama had Starr, Namath & Stabler in the NFL back years ago. They all won the Superbowl and were pro-bowlers & MVPs, etc. The problem is that Bama hasn't produced any elite QBs lately.
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 4/29/19 at 5:13 pm to AuburnPanic40
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Adams, Lawson, Ford, and Holland is making a push for PT right now. Also, Russel was just drafted, Brown is a first round lock next year, Marlon is an early round lock, and Nick Coe is a lock to be drafted if he declares.
Auburn DT and DE had a combined 33 tackles and 3.5 sacks in 2018 in the NFL. MSU DT and DE had a combined 108 tackles and 36.5 sacks in 2018.
D Autry 28 tackles 9 sacks
F Cox 33 tackles 10.5 sacks
C Jones 35 tackles 15.5 sacks
K Love 12 tackles 1.5 sacks
M Adams 11 tackles 1.5 sacks
A Blackson 18 tackles 1 sack
C Lawson 4 tackles 1 sack
Posted on 4/29/19 at 5:15 pm to jatebe
Yea but do we consider NFL success when we talk about these things or just where they got drafted?
Posted on 4/29/19 at 5:16 pm to Dawgsontop34
Not fair. Both Fournette and Guice we’re injured lol
Posted on 4/29/19 at 5:22 pm to Terrific Tales
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Yea but do we consider NFL success when we talk about these things or just where they got drafted?
Or stick to collegiate accolades since this is the SEC Rant. The obsession with what player X does in the NFL on this particular forum is dumb. Emmitt Smith is the all-time leading rusher in the NFL but no one would say he's the best RB in SEC history.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 5:47 pm to TideHyde
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So we are talking not about what college is QBU or LBU but which players from those colleges go on to dominate the NFL?
No.
It’s about what positions schools are known for getting players into the NFL for, not about what they do once they get there.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 5:53 pm to scrooster
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Was named a franchise player with two different teams.
Named a franchise player?
You mean sign a franchise tag?
That doesn’t mean anything with being named the best corner in the league.
Dunta Robinson signed the franchise tag without Houston in 09.
He’s never made a pro bowl.
Normally the franchise tag is just a way a team can sign a guy for one year , the players hate it
Posted on 4/29/19 at 5:55 pm to I Bleed Garnet
"I'm sposed to be the franchise player and we in here talkin bout practice."
Posted on 4/29/19 at 6:34 pm to Korin
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I'm sposed to be the franchise player and we in here talkin bout practice."
We had a DB who said that twice for two different teams?
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 6:34 pm
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