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re: Who do you have winning the East?
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:53 am to RamboMizzou
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:53 am to RamboMizzou
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Lets say we have two projected first round draft picks at the dline next year.
This year we had a 2nd and 7th rounder.
This is why people say our replacements will be better.
at this logic. 
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:54 am to JDHLaw
quote:SEC SEC SEC!!!
11 of 14 teams in the SEC have a center named to the Rimington watch list.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:02 am to WG_Dawg
UF had two projected first rounders playing corner last year... neither was drafted...
You won't know for sure how it's going to play out on the DL until the season starts. Last year, Missouri had awesome depth at DE and could withstand injuries and have little drop off between the 1s and 2s. They may not have that this year.
That is why people think the DL won't be as good.
That being said, they still look like the most balanced team in the division, at least to me.
You won't know for sure how it's going to play out on the DL until the season starts. Last year, Missouri had awesome depth at DE and could withstand injuries and have little drop off between the 1s and 2s. They may not have that this year.
That is why people think the DL won't be as good.
That being said, they still look like the most balanced team in the division, at least to me.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:32 am to slayerxing
FL has the best defensive talent in the division. Offense is middle of the pack.
And then you have Muschamp. You will be in the mix, but I don't think you will win it
And then you have Muschamp. You will be in the mix, but I don't think you will win it
Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:59 am to MIZ_COU
If Florida's offense is even ranked in the 70s or 80s instead of the 100's, they'll probably win the division. Barring stupid crazy injuries again.
The schedule sets up nicely.
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Just to add perspective, UF's 2012 offense ranked in the 100's, and still went 11-1 against the hardest schedule in the country.
The schedule sets up nicely.
Edit:
Just to add perspective, UF's 2012 offense ranked in the 100's, and still went 11-1 against the hardest schedule in the country.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 11:00 am
Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:00 am to scrooster
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Amen ... and it puzzles me why Mizzou fans are so unwilling to accept that as the most likely scenario. And, who knows, but maybe they will be better as the season progresses, we all hope the same thing for all of our new starters.
Some do, some don't. We follow our players closer than you do. We will be very good at end but thin. If someone get's injured then we step back there. You lost Clowney, you going to tell me you don't step back?
We are young and inexperienced at a couple spots on the Oline and the defensive back 7. That's a problem, and the schedule doesn't help with getting GA and Scar very early. We should improve a lot as the season goes on. Last season outside of Gaines our defensive back 7 was anything great and we did ok with it.
I would rank the teams in likelihood as
UGA
Scar
Mizzou
FL
TN
but it's very close and if you played the season four times you would probably get three different winners
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 11:08 am
Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:06 am to MIZ_COU
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We follow our players closer than you do.
You also have a rooting interest in those players which colors any semi-objective analysis.
By almost any metric, losing two starters who were both NFL draft picks shouldn't lead you to the conclusion that the position will be better the following year.
Considering that its reasonable to infer that Sam and Ealy were so effective because they had capable backups and could remain fresher with frequent substitutions and considering that you admit the position is very thin in '14, I'm not sure how you total those two things up to equal 'better' than last year.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 11:15 am
Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:44 am to JDHLaw
quote:I said or inferred all of that. Some of our fans expectations are sky high - not very realistic
Considering that its reasonable to infer that Sam and Ealy were so effective because they had capable backups and could remain fresher with frequent substitutions and considering that you admit the position is very thin in '14, I'm not sure how you total those two things up to equal 'better' than last year.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 5/20/14 at 4:22 pm to WG_Dawg
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I simply don't believe it. If their replacements were BETTER, as you claim, then they would have been starting. You can say "we will get nearly as much production" or "we shouldn't see much dropoff"...but to say they will be BETTER is just asinine.
You don't know Pinkel, friend.
Mauk was better than Franklin, yet Franklin played when healthy because of seniority and Pinkel's sense of loyalty. That's how he rolls.
I would guess 80-90% of Missouri fans would probably agree with me on Mauk, yet Pinkel was prepared to go down in flames in the Cotton Bowl over the issue.
So if you want to call Pinkel asinine, that's on you. Just don't drag me into your judgmental bullshite.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 4:51 pm to slayerxing
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Just to add perspective, UF's 2012 offense ranked in the 100's, and still went 11-1 against the hardest schedule in the country.
While I agree with you and think that a 70-80s ranked offense would be serviceable enough...
Everybody does it and it probably only annoys me, but we ended that "11-1 against the hardest schedule" by getting blown the frick out by an overmatched opponent in Louisville. Effectively making our record 11-2 in my mind, not this 11-1 everyone else likes to throw around.
I only mention this because I would feel much better if our offense could at least break the top 50 so that when we are thrown into catch-up mode immediately by a Driskel pick-six that we have the ability to do so.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 5:38 pm to GatorsGonnaGata
Our current starters at DE are going to better than last year. Depth will be the question. There is a kid, Charles Harris, whom the coaches are VERY high on. Our depth at DT is very good. Our DL should once again be one of the tops on the conference.
As for the East, Id give UGA a slight advantage. Followed closely by Mizzou, then USC.
Nobody else is winning it.
As for the East, Id give UGA a slight advantage. Followed closely by Mizzou, then USC.
Nobody else is winning it.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 5:40 pm to JesusQuintana
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Nobody else is winning it.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 5:43 pm to BigShineAU
Georgia will win and I will root for them. My favorite team in the East.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:09 pm to RiffRaffAggie
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Georgia will win and I will root for them. My favorite team in the East.
Alter.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:26 pm to BigShineAU
Seems like no one really wants it during the season.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:28 pm to semotruman
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We lost 2 OL starters, one of whom was drafted. We return 3 starters, including one on the Rimington watch list, and several more with experience.
Ok. I see. I thought I saw one of your posters say you lost 4 OL. Either I misread or he didn't know what he was talking about. My guess? I misread or misunderstood!
True. Georgia and Florida got hit with injuries last year and it took it's toll. Hopefully we will be passed over by the injury monster this season.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:44 pm to GatorsGonnaGata
So UF laid an egg in the bowl. A Bad egg. It was signs of things to come.
But still, 11-1, beat USCe, LSU, FSU, TAMU, hell, 3 of those teams won 11 games and LSU won 10. That is a rare feet. Especially with the abortion of an offense UF fielded.
If UFs offense is even just serviceable, with the defense Muschamp fields, UF will be a tough out for anyone.
But still, 11-1, beat USCe, LSU, FSU, TAMU, hell, 3 of those teams won 11 games and LSU won 10. That is a rare feet. Especially with the abortion of an offense UF fielded.
If UFs offense is even just serviceable, with the defense Muschamp fields, UF will be a tough out for anyone.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:45 pm to DawgsLife
Quarles completely benefited from clowney being double and triple teamed. Chaz Sutton was nothing more than a body taking up space opposite clowney. The only one of those guys that will be hard to replace is Clowney PERIOD!!
Again I say that line is not going to be as big of question mark as ppl think it's got no where to go but up after it's production last season
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:54 pm to RamboMizzou
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Lets say we have two projected first round draft picks at the dline next year.
You can say that...but I just looked up three different mock drafts for 2015. ONE draft had Bechkham-Green as your only first round pick. (Of course he will not play for Missouri next season) The other two drafts had no Mizzou players going in the first two rounds. That said, we all know that things change drastically, and it is possible Missouri will have two first round draft picks from the DLine, but I think you are premature to say they have two projected 1st round picks.
Where did you see that you would have two DLinemen drafted in the first round? I am curious.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:00 pm to MIZ_COU
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I said or inferred all of that. Some of our fans expectations are sky high - not very realistic
Well, I don't think after last season it is totally unrealistic to think you will contend in the coming year. last season you proved that injuries did you in two years ago. We, and Florida were done in by injuries this past season. I think it's high time South Carolina had their share of key injuries. Vote, anyone?
All in favor, raise your right hand! *Raising my hand and waving it around furiously*
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