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re: Which team wins the SEC East in football this year?

Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by Cockopotamus
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:17 pm to
We didn't win the east because of UGA's schedule, something a Bama fan should understand.
Posted by thefloydian
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:20 pm to
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We didn't win the east because of UGA's schedule, something a Bama fan should understand.


Wow, USCjr has been a completely pointless football program for the better part of 50 years, but it only took a handful of decent seasons for them to learn how to whine like LSU.

Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:21 pm to
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South Carolina's first 5 games: 11 rushing TDs

South Carolina's last 5 games: 5 rushing TDs

Rushing TDs have been the key ingredient to top level teams in the SEC the past 7 seasons.
More-so than defensive stats.


Irrelevent.

Mike Davis is awesome, he came out of Stone Mountain and chose SC over UGA, and averaged 5.3 ypc on 52 attempts behind Lattimore, as a freshman.

I'll let the SC guys educate you on Wilds. He's also a baller.

SC won't have a problem with the running game.



This post was edited on 2/19/13 at 8:29 pm
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:22 pm to
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We didn't win the east because of UGA's schedule, something a Bama fan should understand.


You didn't win the East because you lost to Florida. It's that simple.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:23 pm to
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We didn't win the east because of UGA's schedule, something a Bama fan should understand.


We didn't win the East because of an inept QB against Auburn in 2011 and a complete shitshowing in Gainesville last year.

Georgia had nothing to do with it.
Posted by ugastudent
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:24 pm to
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UF can run the ball down the dawgs throats and so will others

If its so easy then why didn't UF do this last year in the WLOCP?
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:29 pm to
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Irrelevent.

Mike Davis is awesome, he came out of Stone Mountain and chose SC over UGA, and averaged 5.3 ypc on 52 attempts behind Lattimore, as a true freshman.

I'll let the SC guys educate you on Wilds. He's also a baller.

SC won't have a problem with the running game.


Hey... in 2011, even UGA could run the football on 1st down. Crowell was making a ton of great runs.

But when it was 3rd and short. Or goalline.
The teams that are forced to go to the air are the ones that will fall short in the end in the biggest moments.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:31 pm to
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Hey... in 2012, even UGA could run the football on 1st down. Gurhsall was making a ton of great runs.

But when it was 3rd and short. Or goalline.
The teams that are forced to go to the air are the ones that will fall short in the end in the biggest moments.


Fixed it for you.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:32 pm to
I'll do you one better.

Connor Shaw is better at passing and running than Tim Tebow.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:36 pm to
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quote:
Hey... in 2012, even UGA could run the football on 1st down. Gurhsall was making a ton of great runs.

But when it was 3rd and short. Or goalline.
The teams that are forced to go to the air are the ones that will fall short in the end in the biggest moments.


Fixed it for you.


I'm too dumb to get your point.
In 2012, UGA ran for 32 rushing TDs.
When it was 3rd and short, we had a real dual threat to run or pass (unlike 2011 when our dual threat was limited to 1st and 10 and every short yardage situation with a prayer had to be a pass attempt).
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:50 pm to
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I'm too dumb to get your point.
In 2012, UGA ran for 32 rushing TDs.
When it was 3rd and short, we had a real dual threat to run or pass (unlike 2011 when our dual threat was limited to 1st and 10 and every short yardage situation with a prayer had to be a pass attempt).


Gurshall only accounted for 25 of those.


Overall, Georgia only had 13 rushing TD's in all of October, November, December, and January.

During the whole season, only 5 rushing TD's verse AP ranked teams, only 2 rushing TD's vs BCS ranked teams.

LINK


What do you think about that, meansonny?



Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:10 pm to
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Gurshall only accounted for 25 of those.


Overall, Georgia only had 13 rushing TD's in all of October, November, December, and January.

During the whole season, only 5 rushing TD's verse AP ranked teams, only 2 rushing TD's vs BCS ranked teams.

LINK


What do you think about that, meansonny?


I think your link is busted.
BCS Ranked Teams (which ignores bowl results by the way):
against Bama 1 rushing TD
against S.Car 1 rushing TD
against Florida 1 rushing TD
against Nebraska 1 rushing TD

The numbers are wrong, deeprig.

AP adds Vandy which would tack on 5 more rushing TDs in that game alone (9 total against AP ranked teams).

I say you need to trust a better source than the 4 letter network.

Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:11 pm to
I still don't get your point about changing 2011 to 2012.

The 2011 offense was the worst UGA rushing offense in about 17 years.

The 2012 offense was as good if not better than the 2007 offense.

What was your point?
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:40 pm to
To be honest with you, after being stunned by some of his lack of knowledge about the UGA program as evidence in a few of posting cover the last few months, I have always wondered how long he has followed UGA. After this thread, I truly am beginning to wonder at his being a complete troll.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:05 am to
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South Carolina's first 5 games: 11 rushing TDs

South Carolina's last 5 games: 5 rushing TDs

Rushing TDs have been the key ingredient to top level teams in the SEC the past 7 seasons.
More-so than defensive stats.

Based on 5 rushing TDs in 5 games, I'd predict you to have a similar season to UGA in 2011 (losing to all 4 big game opponents on the schedule).


This is the testimony of an outsider who's trying to project the future about a college football team that he obviously knows very little about....

USC rushed for 5 TDs in their final 5 games of the season. But we only failed to score rushing TDs in the final 2 games of the season, versus Clemson and Michigan. Miles injured his ankle vs. CU and was hobbled still when the bowl game arrived. He only had 5 carries versus Michigan.

Still, he was the ONLY RB that got carries vs. Mich. We still rushed for 5.0 ypc in the game, thanks to Shaw's 96 yds on 10 carries...

So that's 5 rushing TDs in 3 games, not 5. All 19 of our rushing TDs coming in the first 11 games, or just under 2 TDs per game. And unless you're saying that we'll only have 2 RBs all season to turn to in 2013, with one of those backs a true freshman, then your comparison is baseless. We dealt with tremendous attrition at RB last season due to injuries, plus Shaw - who is a key element in our running game - was hobbled all season long with injuries himself.

Next season we'll have 6 talented RBs to turn to, if they can remain healthy. Same thing for Shaw...
Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:20 am to
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vandy


Vandy vs Alabama for the SEC title..... They might as well play the fricker in Tuscaloosa.
Posted by DevellionDore
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 6:44 am to
Dores Muthafricka!!!!!! We will beat the dog shite out of the Volginas to clinch it.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 7:31 am to
Carolina
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 9:31 am to
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USC's two backup running backs behind Lattimore, one of whom is Mike Davis (who was committed to Florida and who UGA, along with practically everyone else in the league, tried to sign), the other guy I forget his name (Brandon Wilds), he redshirted last year but played behind Lattie when Lattie's knee got ruint the first time... (plus they redshirted some good backs and signed some more this past class ...)

Both of those guys (Davis and Wilds) averaged 5+ yards per carry. They both return for 2013.

I also think Connor Shaw is a beast. He's a quarterback that actually scares me. If he sat down at a bar near me, I'd close my tab and leave because I'd feel uncomfortable (even though he is a Georgia boy).

Other than Georgia, I think SC has the best offense in the East coming into 2013.

Clowney isn't the only playmaker on their defense either, he's just the best one.

Spurrier is a great coach too.

Everyone wants to talk about how good Mett or Driskel's second year starting is going to be.

I'm afraid of how good Connor Shaw's 2nd year is going to be. (Plus they got that back-up kid Dylan Thompson who could probably start for a lot of teams around the league with his arm and his leadership skills. He reminds me of Danny Wuerful way too much and Spurrier and him have that connection thing going-on where they talk without talking and Thompson throws for over 300 yards ever time he starts in place of Shaw, and that scares me.)

The winner of the USC at UGA game will win the East. I'm glad it's in Athens this year.


Good write-up, helped you with it just a bit but I would have never expected it from you, to be that honest, quite honestly.

And yes, most people forget that we really only had Lattie for the first half of the past two seasons and still finished 11-2 without him only losing one game in that frame of time, when he was gone. We were actually a more balanced, well-rounded, football team when he was out because Spurrier didn't have him to ride as much.

So, I agree with you on all of your points and I'll add that the big key to whether or not SC can win the East this coming season will be at Linebacker and whether or not our young guys can step-up. We've recruited well there but you just never know.

We'll have some question marks on Special Teams too. I think we'll be fine with the kicker and punters, but the loss of Ace Sanders is going to hurt us some.

In the meantime, with regard to UGA I figure if you get some production out of a couple of young WRs and if your OLine stays in tact and you develop a little depth there early - then your offense is going to be a Juggernaut. But I think you lose more on defense than we did and that is where the question mark lies with UGA.

Florida is going to be much improved on offense, and their defense will still be stout.

It's another three-way race in the East. SC's Western opponents:

@ Arkansas
Miss State

UGA's West opps:

LSU
@Auburn

UF's West opps:

Arkansas
@LSU

... I think a lot of how the East will fare this coming season will depend upon how good LSU is and if Arkansas, under Beliema, improves to the point where they can upset either SC or Florida.

Arkansas has A&M, @ UF, SC and @ Bama all right in a row. That little stretch right there will play a great deal of influence over the race in the East next season, and it is every bit as tough as SC's October was last season. Four top ten opponents in a month.
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 9:37 am
Posted by jdaute2
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 10:18 am to
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Wow, USCjr has been a completely pointless football program for the better part of 50 years, but it only took a handful of decent seasons for them to learn how to whine like LSU.


Pretty sure Bama did some whining in 2011 to get into that national title game.
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