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Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:28 pm to koreandawg
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Sorry, but claiming a title where you lost to the team you split titles with because they voted pre bowl as non bogus, but then claiming Georgia's 40's title as bogus when we were named no. 1 in the most recognized polls before the AP poll had gained clout is kind of shady.
When the other schools that claim a title when they lost a bowl game, or didnt even play in one, no longer do it then Alabama should do it but the trophy remains in Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:29 pm to 3down10
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In 1939, Texas A&M was also undefeated and had more than twice as many votes for 1st place.
I don’t give a single frick what the selectors votes were. The coastal elite writers hated southeastern teams back then and still do to an extent. The votes prove it. You and all of those pencil pushing dorks can EAD……
November 18 No. 1 Tennessee extended its shutout streak, beating Vanderbilt 13–0. Having outscored its opposition, 186–0, Tennessee had a record of 8–0–0, but fell to second in the poll that followed. Their replacement in the top spot was No. 2 Texas A&M, which won at Rice 19–0. No. 3 USC was idle. No. 4 Cornell won at No. 20 Dartmouth, 35–6, to stay unbeaten, and they swapped spots with USC in the next poll. No. 5 Oklahoma lost at No. 12 Missouri, 7–6. No. 6 Tulane beat Columbia 25–0 to move into fifth place.
In the next poll, Texas A&M—which had gotten none of the first place votes the week before—was first, with 38 votes. Tennessee, which had had 66 of the 85 No. 1 votes the week before, had 33 on the new round of ballots, and finished second. There were 20 for Cornell, and 11 for USC.
Shutting out a 2-5-1 Vandy team doesn't sound that impressive, sure, but the Aggies' foe - Rice - was 1-5-1 and HAD LOST TO VANDY HEAD-TO-HEAD that season.
The next week, we were both on a bye but TAMU stayed in first place while we fell to 4th.
November 25 No. 1 Texas A&M and No. 2 Tennessee were idle. In Philadelphia, No. 3 Cornell closed its season with a 26–0 win over Penn, to finish unbeaten and untied at 8–0–0. No. 4 USC won at No. 7 Notre Dame, 20–12. No. 5 Tulane beat Sewanee 52–0. In the next round of voting, Texas A&M and USC tied for first place, with 939 points apiece. Cornell led all teams with 34 first-place votes (A&M received 27 and USC 25), but their 909 overall points put them in third place. Tennessee fell to No. 4 and Tulane remained at No. 5.?
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:39 pm to BigOrangeBri
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I don’t give a single frick what the selectors votes were.
You are just awarding yourself a national championship when in reality you are just another in a long list of people who have been upset about the results.
If Alabama claimed titles this way, they'd have 25 titles. Look at 1966. Undefeated, but Notre Dame who tied Michigan St and didn't play in a bowl game wins the NC.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:37 pm to 3down10
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You are just awarding yourself a national championship when in reality you are just another in a long list of people who have been upset about the results.
Also, UT faced 2 ranked teams, the team with more “votes” faced 1.
I’m not upset about the results. We were undefeated and un scored upon. That’s the best result a team could ask for before clueless, biased writers cast their “votes”
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:01 am to BigOrangeBri
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Also, UT faced 2 ranked teams, the team with more “votes” faced 1.
I’m not upset about the results. We were undefeated and un scored upon. That’s the best result a team could ask for before clueless, biased writers cast their “votes”
Then you should be making the argument that Tennessee got robbed, not that they won something they did not.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:55 am to StopRobot
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When the other schools that claim a title when they lost a bowl game, or didnt even play in one, no longer do it then Alabama should do it but the trophy remains in Tuscaloosa
That's fine, but Alabama claims at least two more that are sketchy if Georgia's 1942 ship is bogus.
Georgia finished with one loss just like OSU and had the same amount of selectors calling then national champs. We could claim several more if we wanted just based on someone saying we were national champs.
Dooley was at the College Football HOF and found we were listed being named champs in just as many recognized polls as OSU and so we started claiming that one.
Here's why you claim 18:
Next up is Alabama, which is most renowned for seeming to over-count. The Crimson Tide claim 17: six under Bear Bryant, 5 under Nick Saban, and another by Gene Stallings. There was also the 1934 season, which was widely recognized. But in the 1980s, Wayne Atcheson, then the Alabama sports information director, circled back and added four more: 1925, 1926, 1930 and 1941. Three of those teams were in unbeaten seasons, though they weren’t the only unbeaten teams. The 1941 Alabama team, on the other hand, was 9-2 and had only one No. 1 poll: The Houlgate.
“I tried to make Alabama football look the best it could look and just make it as great as it could possibly be,” Atcheson told the Birmingham News in 2010. “I was a competitor myself with the other schools, and what they bragged about and boasted about, I wanted people to know the best about my school.”
Alabama is far from the only school to be liberal in its qualifications.
Article is from early 2020
the athletic
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:44 am to 3down10
By far it's Bama...You guys would claim a title even if the Johnson County Sentinel were the only newspaper in America to declare it
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:01 am to skrayper
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I've always found it amusing that LSU fans need to write a multi-page dissertation about Alabama's national titles.
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I’ve always found it amusing that Alabama fans wanted to catch up to Notre Dame in titles, so they just went back in time to retroclaim some that they didn’t claim before.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:16 am to 3down10
Your post is bogus (and so are you).
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:46 am to koreandawg
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That's fine, but Alabama claims at least two more that are sketchy if Georgia's 1942 ship is bogus.
No, they don't.
1941 is the only claim of Alabama's that is bogus. Feel free to name the others.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:50 am to NytroBud
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By far it's Bama...You guys would claim a title even if the Johnson County Sentinel were the only newspaper in America to declare it
Alabama and Georgia have the same amount of bogus claims - 1.
Alabama however has 17 legit ones behind it while Georgia has only 3.
And if you really want to talk about the 3 Georgia has, the 1980 might be the weakest National Championship in history. In competition with 1981 Clemson.
1980 Georgia didn't play a single ranked team until the bowl game. They bypassed all the SEC teams - as usual because that's the only way Georgia can be relevant. Then you played 7th ranked Notre Dame(9th after the game) in the bowl game and barely squeaked out a 7 point win. They got beat in their last game of the year by USC by 17 points.
And hell, that wasn't even Georgia's closest game of the year. Barely getting by multiple unranked teams.
The only reason you have that NC is because of an extremely shitty SoS.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:48 pm to 3down10
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as usual because that's the only way Georgia can be relevant.
Listen to how pathetic you sound, here.
You sound like a crying lil bitch.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:52 pm to 3down10
Arkansas - 1909, 1964, 1977
3 legit
3 legit
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:57 pm to dstone12
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There’s a thread about this.
LINK
I suppose yours is a white list while chickens is a black list?
Or is this a way for you to “only claim 6% bogus claims” to get in front of the fact that you actually claim fake titles?
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Aren’t you the one th at cores when we discuss 2019 LSU? You’re the one that hard legs Nebraska?
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Listen to how pathetic you sound, here.
You sound like a crying lil bitch.
All you have done is cry over and over about this thread.
Suck my dick.
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:59 pm to 3down10
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I wonder why LSU never claimed 1908
You could. I would give you credit for it as well.
We should.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 1:00 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Arkansas - 1909, 1964, 1977
3 legit
I would give Arkansas 1909 if they claimed it.
The other 2 are bogus. The FWAA was just 5 guys who come up with the rankings. It's about like the ESPN game day crew putting out their rankings.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 1:04 pm to 3down10
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12. Ole Miss: 3 claims, 1959, 1960 and 1962 are bogus, 100% bogus claims.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 1:07 pm to Lucado
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We should.
I'm fine with it. I think you played a YMCA team that year, but that's just the way things were back then.
I'd also be fine if nobody ever counted any of them before 1936.
It's a weird time to try to define. I think you have to either be extra loose, or just ignore all of them. I stick to extra loose because it feels like it would just be completely ignoring history otherwise. It adds character and demonstrates the evolution of the process.
I think maybe one day I'll try to go through teams and come up with a list of championships I think schools should claim using the same criteria as above. So that rather than just taking the pre-1936 championships for schools that claim them, it would include them for schools that don't as well.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 1:35 pm to 3down10
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All you have done is cry over and over about this thread.
Your definition of “crying” is hilarious.
However, you’re also the poster suggesting that people suck your d-ck.
You have a problem. Need to talk about it, loser?
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