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re: Which SEC team claims the least % of bogus titles in football?

Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:23 am to
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:23 am to
See above. I told you that you had triggered the Hogs fans! They’re coming for you now, bro. Better watch your back.
Posted by Arzrbkfan
Member since Jul 2022
242 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:28 am to
(FWAA) Alabama did not receive a single vote for first, second, or third place.
Posted by PorkDawg
Texas
Member since Feb 2019
5074 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:30 am to
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Vandy, Miss St, Mizzou and South Carolina have 0 claims, but it should be noted they all have atleast 1 claim, sometimes 2 or 3 if they were to make the type of claims others are making here. So shout out to these schools for keeping it honest.


I claim 1941
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6770 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:34 am to
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FWAA




Oh man, now you’ve done it. You just triggered tf out of LSU 2003 fans. Loving this shite slinging between Arkansas and LSU fans in this thread- did not see that coming.
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
2149 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:39 am to
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Two pieces of the system. The other 7 disagree.


What other 7? The system of the time was AP or UPI/Coaches poll. If you start bringing in other pieces then you legitimize Alabama's bogus 1941 Houlgate National Championship and Auburn's 2004 Golf digest National championship claim for that matter.
Posted by Arzrbkfan
Member since Jul 2022
242 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:09 pm to
Sorry but you couldn't be more wrong. Here's a great article that discusses the 64 season and all the facts about the National Champion.
LINK
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:13 pm to
The Hogs are welcome to claim anything they want but they would be the only school outside of UCF to claim a title after WWII that isnt AP/UPI/BCS or CFP.

*Yeah I was really wrong about this. Lots of schools have done it
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 12:38 pm
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:22 pm to
So you are going back to my original statement. You want to claim it based off groups that got together decades later and their "feelings" were that Arkansas was number 1. Claim whatever you want, but why take away from a team that was awarded by what was the standard at the time.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:23 pm to
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The Hogs are welcome to claim anything they want but they would be the only school outside of UCF to claim a title after WWII that isnt AP/UPI/BCS or CFP.

Huh? Plenty of schools do that.

Army 1946
Georgia Tech 1951, 1952
Iowa 1958
Kentucky 1950
Michigan 1947
Ohio St 1961, 1970
Okie St 1945
Rebs 1959, 1960, 1962
SMU 1981, 1982
Sparty 1951, 1955, 1957, 1966
Vols 1950, 1967
Washington 1960
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Arzrbkfan
Member since Jul 2022
242 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:29 pm to
Check out the link I posted above. It discusses the season the bowl games and all the organizations recognized by the NCAA as who ended up as the legitimate #1 for 1964.

Bama fans should enjoy the story on the 64 Orange Bowl. Texas never crossed midfield after halftime. But it ended up with Bama being stuffed 4 times at the Texas goal line. Namath swears he got in on 4th down.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6770 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:31 pm to
That’s actually a great effort above. I’ve wondered about this issue many times (more from a cutoff of around 1960 when we were solidly in the poll era) but have never seen the list and didn’t have the patience to research. Is that more or less comprehensive do you think?
Posted by Arzrbkfan
Member since Jul 2022
242 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:32 pm to
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decades later
Where in the world to you get that? Read the link I posted.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:34 pm to
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That’s actually a great effort above. I’ve wondered about this issue many times (more from a cutoff of around 1960 when we were solidly in the poll era) but have never seen the list and didn’t have the patience to research. Is that more or less comprehensive do you think?

I think that's everyone who currently plays FBS football who claims something post WW2 that's not AP or Coaches.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:37 pm to
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Huh? Plenty of schools do that.



Appears I was wrong. WTF is with Ohio State claiming 1970 for instance?
Posted by Arzrbkfan
Member since Jul 2022
242 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:38 pm to
Grade point averages 1936-1964:

1) National Championship Foundation 4.69
2) Billingsley (math system) 4.67
3) Houlgate (math) 4.53
4) College Football Researchers Association
4.48
5) Sagarin-ELO (math) 4.46
6) DeVold (math)
4.44
7) Poling (math)
4.38
8) Helms Foundation 4.35
9) Boand (math) 4.27
10) Sagarin (math) 4.24
11) Litkenhous (math)
4.22
12) AP Poll 4.08
13) Dunkel (math) 4.05
14) Williamson (math) 3.86
15) Berryman (math) 3.17
16) Coaches Poll 3.05
Posted by Bodie
Member since Aug 2022
1906 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:39 pm to
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Appears I was wrong. WTF is with Ohio State claiming 1970 for instance?


I’m pretty sure they ended that season with a loss as well
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
2149 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:39 pm to
The College Football Researchers Association was founded in 1982

The National Championship Foundation was founded by Mike Riter of Germantown, New York. They retroactively selected national championships by member vote for every season through 1980.

Those are listed as who awarded them the National championship. Plus those 5 random sports writers who had their "feelings" on who it should be.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:41 pm to
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Appears I was wrong. WTF is with Ohio State claiming 1970 for instance?

National Football Foundation and their goofy trophy that now permanently resides in the CFBHOF.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:42 pm to
So you think a poll that didn't even exist until 16 years later is #1?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22670 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:45 pm to
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This is hilarious considering we could claim several titles under the same way Bama did. We just have pussy admins not willing to do so.




Name them.
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