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re: Which SEC football team will backslide the most this season?
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:10 pm to ALcapone
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:10 pm to ALcapone
I don't know man. The NC chatter is all over the radio, on their boards, and on here. They legitimately believe they can and some believe they will play for the NC. It hasn't just been over the past week or so either. Maybe on here, but not elsewhere.
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:10 pm to gatordmb89
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Kid was hurt/coming off an injury.
I know, but our offense was still extremely good without him in 2011 so I don't think it'll make much of a difference losing him. That was what I was getting at
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:10 pm to ALcapone
My thoughts would be;
1) Arky -due to losing CBP they will lose 3 (LSU, BAMA, State/AM)- Now a 3 loss season normally is not that bad for Ark. Before losing CBP this was the season Ark fans were pointing towards making a run at BCSNCG with Wilson and Kniles coming back. So it would be a big letdown considering the high hopes.I could see the Hogs falling the farthest but I hope they don't.
2) Au- this is mostly for the fanbase as the team will not have a major backslide rather stay the same-records wise. It will be a big letdown for Au fans losing again(3 of last 4) to LSu, BAMA, Ark and UGA. Plus another L against Clempson or the first in a long time against MS State. Another 4 to 6 loss season and does Chizick's seat get a little warm? Au doesn't really fall but they don't climb and that's why it will be a letdown for their fans.
I don't think it will happen but if LSU or Bama were to lose more than 2 games then that would be a big letdown for both fan bases.
1) Arky -due to losing CBP they will lose 3 (LSU, BAMA, State/AM)- Now a 3 loss season normally is not that bad for Ark. Before losing CBP this was the season Ark fans were pointing towards making a run at BCSNCG with Wilson and Kniles coming back. So it would be a big letdown considering the high hopes.I could see the Hogs falling the farthest but I hope they don't.
2) Au- this is mostly for the fanbase as the team will not have a major backslide rather stay the same-records wise. It will be a big letdown for Au fans losing again(3 of last 4) to LSu, BAMA, Ark and UGA. Plus another L against Clempson or the first in a long time against MS State. Another 4 to 6 loss season and does Chizick's seat get a little warm? Au doesn't really fall but they don't climb and that's why it will be a letdown for their fans.
I don't think it will happen but if LSU or Bama were to lose more than 2 games then that would be a big letdown for both fan bases.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:10 pm to Gladius Veritas
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:11 pm to gatordmb89
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What about Joe Adams and Greg Childs? Something tells me Adams may be missed on ST and Childs as a vertical deep threat.
Cobi Hamilton will step into the role as top WR target; he has pretty much everything you want in your go-to WR.
Marquel Wade (assuming he gets back on the team which is likely), will fill Joe Adams role. He's very fast and scrappy like Adams, but with even better hands.
Jevontee Herndon and Keante Minor are both very strong WR's with speed and great hands. They will be much tougher to play bump and run coverage on than it was against the smaller and weaker Wright and Adams.
Julian Horton has great hands and route running ability.
Chris Gragg will likely be our second or third top pass-catcher; he's big and fast, and has the skills of a WR. Freshman Demetrius Dean is next in line of Arkansas' great receiving TE's and will see playing time.
Add to this the fact we have a deep, talented, experienced backfield with Davis, Johnson, Wingo, and Small leading the way, and our passing game should get opened up even more this season. Plus Wilson has a year of starting experience under his belt now and our offensive line should be slightly improved.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:12 pm to Gladius Veritas
Also, what kind of transition is AR making on D? Are they keeping the same verbiage with their D, making a schematic change, etc?
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:13 pm to gatordmb89
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I don't know man. The NC chatter is all over the radio, on their boards, and on here. They legitimately believe they can and some believe they will play for the NC. It hasn't just been over the past week or so either. Maybe on here, but not elsewhere.
Agreed. Most of my UGA friends think they really can beat Bama/LSU this year in the SECCG and will then play for the national title. Been hearing that since after national signing day. Much like Arkansas fans in some years, they have managed to forget their last two games of the past season.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:13 pm to Gladius Veritas
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Alabama is still going to beat the shite out of us again, and I honestly don't think they're nervous about that game all. They might have been a bit before Petrino left, but definitely not now
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:13 pm to Gladius Veritas
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They might have been a bit before Petrino left, but definitely not now
i was always nervous facing petrino. he was too good of a coach with too much talent for Bama to beat him every time. i always felt like the streak was bound to come to an end at some point. but John L is about to get a new streak started.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:13 pm to Jon Ham
USCe
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:15 pm to gatordmb89
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Also, what kind of transition is AR making on D? Are they keeping the same verbiage with their D, making a schematic change, etc?
Different verbiage,similar scheme but simpler for the most part. Haynes wants to be a little more aggressive than Willy was with the line and LB's.
Probably a good thing because I read an opposing OC last season say that Willy's defenses were sometimes to overly complicated and he schemed himself in to bad situations at times.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:15 pm to Jon Ham
You honestly think we have a chance against Bama?
Lulz
I'm not trying to be a Debbi Downer, but the facts are pretty obvious
Lulz
I'm not trying to be a Debbi Downer, but the facts are pretty obvious
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:18 pm to ALcapone
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i was always nervous facing petrino. he was too good of a coach with too much talent for Bama to beat him every time. i always felt like the streak was bound to come to an end at some point. but John L is about to get a new streak started.
Yup, he always made the most with what he had and his teams always played to their max potential
I knew we have never really had a great shot at Bama under Petrino (except for 2010) but at least I knew that that was the best our team could play
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:19 pm to Gladius Veritas
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You honestly think we have a chance against Bama?
Lulz
I'm not trying to be a Debbi Downer, but the facts are pretty obvious
Why the hell wouldn't we?
In 2010, with a second year starting QB, playing at home, with a good running game and decent defense, and Bama coming off a NC season, we led most of the game until Mallett had a meltdown and threw the game away in the 4th quarter. With Tyler under center and Knile Davis in the backfield, we can play with anyone in the country. Bama is only a 3 point favorite right now.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:20 pm to ALcapone
I have to go with Arkansas...
1) They lost Bobby Petrino
2) They lost their best playmakers at wideout, and this offense thrives on a vertical passing attack.
3) Knile Davis, their best player, is coming off a series leg injury.
4) Tyler Wilson was running for his life last season behind an offensive line that might not improve much
5) The defense hasn't been good in quite some time
6) LSU and Alabama will still be dominant, while State and Auburn will improve.
Arkansas if the most logical SEC team right now, IMO.
1) They lost Bobby Petrino
2) They lost their best playmakers at wideout, and this offense thrives on a vertical passing attack.
3) Knile Davis, their best player, is coming off a series leg injury.
4) Tyler Wilson was running for his life last season behind an offensive line that might not improve much
5) The defense hasn't been good in quite some time
6) LSU and Alabama will still be dominant, while State and Auburn will improve.
Arkansas if the most logical SEC team right now, IMO.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:20 pm to therick711
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Sports Illustrated, specifically Mandel, picks LSU for this just about every year since Miles has been here. Eventually, he thinks he will be right if he stays consistent
Someone doesn't remember 2008 and 2009.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:24 pm to tween the hedges
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USCe
maybe, i feel like they have been playing a little over their heads lately, in terms of how well that program has traditionally done. i dont think anyone would be surpised if they fell off. But I dont think this years team will be worse than last years. Shaw had already replaced Garcia as QB. Spurrier will design a good offense for him. Is there any reason why the defense is going to fall off from last year?
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:25 pm to Jon Ham
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Why the hell wouldn't we?
In 2010, with a second year starting QB, playing at home, with a good running game and decent defense, and Bama coming off a NC season, we led most of the game until Mallett had a meltdown and threw the game away in the 4th quarter. With Tyler under center and Knile Davis in the backfield, we can play with anyone in the country. Bama is only a 3 point favorite right now.
Except the 2010 team had a mastermind calling the offensive plays
Without that we can't really compete against Bama's D
With Knile back we should have a stronger backfield, plus a better offensive line, but overall our offense will be worse
I'm predicting a score of 35-13
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:27 pm to Gladius Veritas
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Except the 2010 team had a mastermind calling the offensive plays
Without that we can't really compete against Bama's D
We have the same playbook; we have a 5th year senior QB who spent 4 1/2 years under Bobby; and we have Bobby's brother as our OC. Petrino was a great offensive coach, but it's not rocket science that only he can execute.
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I'm predicting a score of 35-13
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:28 pm to TTsTowel
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I have to go with Arkansas... 1) They lost Bobby Petrino 2) They lost their best playmakers at wideout, and this offense thrives on a vertical passing attack. 3) Knile Davis, their best player, is coming off a series leg injury. 4) Tyler Wilson was running for his life last season behind an offensive line that might not improve much 5) The defense hasn't been good in quite some time 6) LSU and Alabama will still be dominant, while State and Auburn will improve. Arkansas if the most logical SEC team right now, IMO.
I agree with you, except for 3-6
Knile Davis with an injury is still better than Dennis Johnson at full speed
Our offensive line is most definitely going to get better. It's hard to get worse when nearly everyone will have an extra year of experience
And we brought in two Ohio State coaches, which I'm sure you know, who have already proven themselves in the Cotton Bowl. It's damn near impossible for the defense to get better
This post was edited on 6/20/12 at 4:31 pm
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