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re: Which school would you rather coach at: Arkansas or Texas A&M?

Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:39 pm to
Posted by QuackAttack716
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:39 pm to
A&M. Living in Texas and Texan fans as opposed to Porkers. Better academic institution.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:46 pm to
I'd say Arkansas but it's close

Texas A&M has had the same resources for a very long time and has yet to capitalize on it. Many of their fans are telling us to stop focusing on their "past" and focus on their "potential". Hasn't that potential always been there?

Once Texas is back, it will only get harder for A&M
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 11:47 pm
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:47 pm to
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Texas A&M has had the same resources for a very long time and has yet to capitalize on it.


Hilariously false.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:49 pm to
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History suggests otherwise. This is what happened the last time we had top notch coaches.

LINK

I am not saying that Bielema will be that successful but it would not be unprecedented if he was.



You are both in the SEC now, not the Southworst Conference. A&M will have a huge natural recruiting advantage over Arkansas. It's a job much better set up for success.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:54 pm to
What are these new resources then? The association with the SEC? If so,

Haven't you always been in Texas, had $$$, and have had a larger stadium than Arkansas for most of your programs history? In theory Texas A&M should not have a losing record to Arkansas

I would say you guys have underachieved
This post was edited on 9/17/13 at 12:01 am
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:11 am to
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Haven't you always been in Texas, had $$$, and have had a larger stadium than Arkansas for most of your programs history?


Well, yes, we've always been in Texas, dumbass.

We most certainly have not always had money. We were a poor, all male, cow and military college for a long, long time. The big programs wouldn't even play us in College Station - that's why we played LSU in Baton Rouge every year.

And despite all that, we've still won more games, had a higher winning percentage, and won more conference championships that Arkansas. And now, for the first time in history, we are going to not only have an elite stadium and facilities, but we're also going to be able to sell to Texas recruits as the only SEC team in Texas. We've never been so well positioned before. Ever.
Posted by Pocket Kings
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:27 am to
Man there are some salty ags up here in this thread. One thing is for certain: this thread completely backfired on the op.
Posted by GumpMaster&Commander
Member since Aug 2013
2248 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:57 am to
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You are both in the SEC now, not the Southworst Conference. A&M will have a huge natural recruiting advantage over Arkansas. It's a job much better set up for success.



TAMU doesn't have a recruiting advantage over us. The culture of TAMU is a huge turnoff to most top recruits. TAMU is not the cool school in Texas. It is the weird, military/conservative place. Top recruits aren't Lee Ermey. Their black coach has temporarily mitigated this but Sumlin will probably get out of their sooner rather than later.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 6:25 am to
For every recruit who turns down A&M because of the nutsqueeze element, there's a recruit who won't go the Arkansas because of Deliverence factor.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 6:29 am to
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The culture of TAMU is a huge turnoff to most top recruits. TAMU is not the cool school in Texas.




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Their black coach has temporarily mitigated this but Sumlin will probably get out of their sooner rather than later.


How about Sumlin is just a fricking good coach? How about that, not his color?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 6:30 am to
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if you actually think A&M jumped from outside the 20 most valuable football programs over the #10 most valuable football program in a matter of 9 months then you need help. Arky is worth more than Aggy. :DWI:


Arkansas isn't a top ten "valuable" program unless you include facilities in to the equation, and even then Texas A&M is building a $425 million stadium, and just received $741 million in donations, which is $300 million more than tu has ever received. I don't know by what metric Arkansas would ever be more valuable than tu. Y'all are getting phased out. :DWI:
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 6:41 am to
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Man there are some salty ags up here in this thread. One thing is for certain: this thread completely backfired on the op.


Absolutely.

ETA: cardboard you could start this same thread but put stAte or UCA instead of us if you need a little pick me up. Although, Conway is a pretty cool town, maybe you should just stick with stAte.
This post was edited on 9/17/13 at 6:55 am
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 6:58 am to
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this thread completely backfired on the op.


Not really. I just wanted to move on from the lovefest to some game week shite talk.

Mission accomplished.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 6:59 am to
I wouldn't even care if A&M had more money in its coffers than Arkansas. They fricking SHOULD. You have had 50,000 or more student going back at LEAST 15 years. We don't even have 25,000 student yet and were around 16,000 in 1999. The state of Arkansas is freaking TINY and doesn't have the oil money of Texas.

Bragging about being richer than Arkansas (if true; congrats on getting out of debt), is akin to Fiji rubbing their noses in Aspen's face because they don't have beautiful beaches.

If we're talking just football, I could see this being a discussion. A&M definitely has some advantages. It's definitely a frickton easier to recruit there just because you can roll out of bed and have guys within 2 hours. But that hasn't helped them all that much (UT and A&M are two of the most underachieving programs in history or Texas recruits are overvalued by recruiting services). I tend to think the spread offense taking over the state has hurt somewhat, especially in the trenches.

But outside of football I think Arkansas is a better situation in baseball, basketball, and track. I have no idea about the other sports.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:01 am to
Probably would have been better reserved for the week these two teems actually play.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
34430 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:03 am to
A&M

Because I've been to Arkansas.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:03 am to
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TAMU doesn't have a recruiting advantage over us. The culture of TAMU is a huge turnoff to most top recruits... Their black coach has temporarily mitigated this but Sumlin will probably get out of their sooner rather than later.



Um, we out recruited Arky before we had the SEC or Sumlin. Only time in our history Arky recruited better is when both programs were in the SWC and y'all had that big rivalry with Texas. Recruits in this state haven't given a shite about Arky since then.

Say we will frick up our advantages because we are Aggies, but don't lie and deny the advantages. Arky will never out recruit A&M consistently ever again.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:07 am to
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Probably would have been better reserved for the week these two teems actually play.



Yall are the next SEC team we play. Just getting ready.
Posted by swinetime
Member since Apr 2013
5465 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:22 am to
If you are into hot chicks Arkansas, if you are a "man's man" the aggy's have a home for you
Posted by arg
Member since Sep 2013
488 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:38 am to
Are we talking about right now? A&M and it's not even close. Money, recruiting, stadium, fan support and a top 10 team. In the past I would have went with Arkansas.
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