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Which previous or current title format was/is the best?
Posted on 1/23/25 at 9:14 am
Posted on 1/23/25 at 9:14 am
Let's leave off hypotheticals in this one - we all have opinions on what the title process SHOULD be, but instead let's review the historically used methods.
Leaving off historical polls, the methods have been:
1. Voter polls*, finalized prior to bowls
2. Voter polls*, finalized after bowls
3. Bowl Coalition / Bowl Alliance / BCS - no standalone title game (bowl games rotated to host the title game)
4. BCS - Standalone title game
5. 4-team playoff - competing teams determined by committee
6. 12-team playoff - competing teams determined by committee with reserved slots for conference champions
Voter polls in this case referring to the polls accepted by the NCAA when listing national champions.
So, thoughts? Which one was the best method we've had over the years?
Leaving off historical polls, the methods have been:
1. Voter polls*, finalized prior to bowls
2. Voter polls*, finalized after bowls
3. Bowl Coalition / Bowl Alliance / BCS - no standalone title game (bowl games rotated to host the title game)
4. BCS - Standalone title game
5. 4-team playoff - competing teams determined by committee
6. 12-team playoff - competing teams determined by committee with reserved slots for conference champions
Voter polls in this case referring to the polls accepted by the NCAA when listing national champions.
So, thoughts? Which one was the best method we've had over the years?
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 9:17 am to skrayper
I never thought I’d see the day when I would miss the BCS
Posted on 1/23/25 at 9:20 am to DMagic
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I never thought I’d see the day when I would miss the BCS
If I'm being honest, I kinda miss the days of the old bowl system simply because there was a chance - albeit a small one - where a team could start the day #5 and finish #1. All in one day.
The current playoffs can do that, but over what feels like a grueling slog of non-competitive games.
If your team was even in the top 6, it gave you an investment to cheer for as many underdogs and watch/listen to as many games as possible.
Posted on 1/23/25 at 9:27 am to skrayper
The CCG/playoff tie-ins and byes that went to so many inferior teams created all the chaos of picking a champion. The final playoff seeding had nothing to do with common sense and sent yet another signal that college football is in complete disrepair.
Posted on 1/23/25 at 9:32 am to skrayper
BCS was fine, 4-team was fine, expansion could have been fine if they'd just gone to 8 and used a computer again.
Posted on 1/23/25 at 9:39 am to DMagic
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I never thought I’d see the day when I would miss the BCS
Posted on 1/23/25 at 11:00 am to jonnyanony
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BCS was fine, 4-team was fine, expansion could have been fine if they'd just gone to 8 and used a computer again.
Agree
But why not 6?
Everybody skips over 6
Posted on 1/23/25 at 11:02 am to skrayper
I like the bcs computer rankings. It seemed to have picked the right teams
Posted on 1/23/25 at 11:04 am to skrayper
I’d say 12 team playoff is fine but the seeding is ridiculous. The bye weeks fricked over all of those teams as well
Posted on 1/23/25 at 11:06 am to Rohan Gravy
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But why not 6?
Because the 12-team playoff has become the new DEI of college football. Bring me your average, your small, your downtrodden, and not only will we get you a place at the table but a bye to the quarterfinals.
Posted on 1/23/25 at 11:31 am to bamameister
To be fair, Oregon and Georgia earned the bye weeks. It’s nobody else’s fault that they schit their pants though
Posted on 1/23/25 at 11:41 am to skrayper
How about let's NOT review the historically used methods.
Posted on 1/23/25 at 11:42 am to skrayper
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4. BCS - Standalone title game
Posted on 1/23/25 at 11:43 am to skrayper
What I find funny is the 12 team playoff supporters have this idea that now small teams like Boise have a chance now simply because they're gifted a spot in the field. I would argue that the BCS and even the 4 team playoff gave them a better shot to actually win a title.
Boise was preseason top 5 twice in the BCS era IIRC. Their kicker missed GW kicks in both seasons. But it was far more likely for a team like that to win a title when they had preseason hype, went undefeated and the rest of the field was somewhat down and they got a chance to just win 1 game for all the marbles, and maybe for that 1 game they could pull the upset. With 12 teams (and beyond, theyre already talking about expanding it more), especially once seeding is tweaked where they won't get byes, those teams will have to win 4 straight games against tougher competition. I just don't see that ever happening. There will be some first round upsets sure but their path to an actual title is significantly more difficult now. 1984 BYU ain't happening in this era
And they don't even get a chance to just win a big bowl to cap the season like Boise/Oklahoma or UCF/Auburn to . Their seasons are going to end in losses in the playoffs every year. All the expanded playoffs did was give actual talented teams like this year's Ohio St more wiggle room to frick up in the regular season and still compete for a title, eliminating the urgency of the regular season and devaluing rivalry week.
I hope all those short-sighted morons are happy with what they asked for.
Boise was preseason top 5 twice in the BCS era IIRC. Their kicker missed GW kicks in both seasons. But it was far more likely for a team like that to win a title when they had preseason hype, went undefeated and the rest of the field was somewhat down and they got a chance to just win 1 game for all the marbles, and maybe for that 1 game they could pull the upset. With 12 teams (and beyond, theyre already talking about expanding it more), especially once seeding is tweaked where they won't get byes, those teams will have to win 4 straight games against tougher competition. I just don't see that ever happening. There will be some first round upsets sure but their path to an actual title is significantly more difficult now. 1984 BYU ain't happening in this era
And they don't even get a chance to just win a big bowl to cap the season like Boise/Oklahoma or UCF/Auburn to . Their seasons are going to end in losses in the playoffs every year. All the expanded playoffs did was give actual talented teams like this year's Ohio St more wiggle room to frick up in the regular season and still compete for a title, eliminating the urgency of the regular season and devaluing rivalry week.
I hope all those short-sighted morons are happy with what they asked for.
Posted on 1/23/25 at 12:06 pm to skrayper
I like the idea of having 3 or 4 national champions and bowl games meaning something. Unless someone devises a system where the teams that are playing at the top of CFB like the SEC and the Big10 is doing are only competing against one another, like the NFL, there is no way one system works for everyone because you will have teams playing Florida's schedule this year (murderous) and teams playing Ohio States (did not start until mid December).
Posted on 1/23/25 at 2:24 pm to Nasty_Canasta
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To be fair, Oregon and Georgia earned the bye weeks. It’s nobody else’s fault that they schit their pants though
The bye weeks appeared to be BAD for the teams.
The better teams in the first round had lesser competition, but got play time. Now you had the better teams that had played recently against teams of roughly equal caliber having gone over a month without playing a snap in game time.
Bye weeks in the NFL are fine because it's a short break, not over a month between games.
Posted on 1/23/25 at 2:39 pm to skrayper
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Which previous or current title format was/is the best?
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 2:42 pm to skrayper
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bye weeks appeared to be BAD for the teams.
Coaches have mixed opinions on that.
The Conf Championship games proved worse, especially the loser who played in first round
Posted on 1/23/25 at 2:47 pm to skrayper
We have not seen the best yet. I always said 12 teams was way to much. The best would be the top 8 teams. No lower tier conference champs, they just can’t beat the best teams in the country.
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