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re: Where's the thrill in giving a player money...

Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:09 am to
Posted by crimson crazy
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:09 am to
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For some of them it makes them feel somewhat responsible for a positive outcome in the game


It feels like an investment. Just like NFL owners and their players.
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:10 am to
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I've given an exotic dancer (college student earning tuition) money once or twice. It was kinda fun


I paid one a couple weeks ago to help her daughter pay for college.



























Okay I'm joking.
This post was edited on 3/31/11 at 11:11 am
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:11 am to

Jock sniffers.

The same reason guys go to these baseball card shows and pay players $500 for their autograph. Oh my God look I get to meet Mark Grace and spend 90 seconds about telling him how I wasn't such a bad first basemen myself back when I played little league.

It's kind of sad really.

Of course there's also a different breed of benefactor. If a player is really good and projects to play in the NFL, some of these people - maybe not boosters per se - think that one day it might pay dividends.

When this player has %50 million and is a big superstar, he will remember that I was the guy in college who helped him out with spending money, so he will give me a loan, or invest his fortunes in my little rinky dink ivestment firm or do commercials for my car dealership.

Posted by bamascott2
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:12 am to
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It feels like an investment. Just like NFL owners and their players.

How would you feel if TR sidled on over to UGA because they offered better benefits than UA did after his sophomore year, with no repercussions to TR or to UGA?

You know, like the NFL?
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:12 am to
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How would you feel if TR sidled on over to UGA because they offered better benefits than UA did after his sophomore year, with no repercussions to TR or to UGA?

You know, like the NFL?


This is one of the many reasons I hate the NFL.
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:13 am to
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How would you feel if TR sidled on over to UGA because they offered better benefits than UA did after his sophomore year, with no repercussions to TR or to UGA?


I would go and buy Kniles Davis, or Marcus Lattimore.
Posted by ThaKaptin
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:14 am to
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Of course there's also a different breed of benefactor. If a player is really good and projects to play in the NFL, some of these people - maybe not boosters per se - think that one day it might pay dividends.

When this player has %50 million and is a big superstar, he will remember that I was the guy in college who helped him out with spending money, so he will give me a loan, or invest his fortunes in my little rinky dink ivestment firm or do commercials for my car dealership.


This happens a LOT more than ppl think. But usually I think its guys that really love their favorite team and want to do whatever they can to help. Or at least they see it as help until they get caught. Whats that saying about a road to hell and good intentions?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:14 am to
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I would go and buy Kniles Davis, or Marcus Lattimore.
Can't afford Dyer?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:14 am to
I would do it if I had an extra 100 dollars but that Superchip I ordered for my truck has left me broke.. guess I'll have to give out I Owe You handshakes
Posted by bamascott2
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:14 am to
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I would go and buy Kniles Davis, or Marcus Lattimore.

So you'd be okay with sacrificing school and team loyalty?
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
20712 posts
Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:15 am to
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Can't afford Dyer?


Dyer is good, but I would rather have Davis or Lattimore.
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
20712 posts
Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:18 am to
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So you'd be okay with sacrificing school and team loyalty?


In this scenario, yes.

In all honesty, I would love for it to be all about school and team loyalty, but it's not. This is a business. How many of the guys on our roster do you think came to Alabama because of Alabama? I would venture to say maybe 25%. Most of those guys came to Alabama because Saban is going to get them to the next level. They have no loyalty to the school.

College football is a business. Many of these guys grew up with practically nothing. They either want money, or they want to do what they have to do to get to the next level, in order to make money.
Posted by UpstateCock2007
Columbia, SC
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:18 am to
The investment analogy is a good one. That is exactly how I would feel about it. The fact that was have had very little success makes me starving to invest in something like this.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:21 am to
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Seriously? If I were in their shoes, I would have a blast doing it. Imagine being an Auburn booster, and telling McClover, "1k for every time you sack Brodie". Come Saturday, you're sitting in your seat/suite/wherever, and you watch McClover take him down four times. I would be stoked.


I would have offered $2000 doallars in table dances. I would have spent the other $2000 on dances for myself!
This post was edited on 3/31/11 at 11:43 am
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:21 am to
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The fact that was have had very little success makes me starving to invest in something like this.


BINGO. Say you're a wealthy alumnus of a school with a pretty good football program, but not a dominate one. The fanbase is there, the desire is there, but you just can't get the pieces you need to reach that next level.

You can sit back and watch your favorite team continue to be pretty good, or you can reach into your pockets and turn them into a powerhouse. What would you rather do?
Posted by bamascott2
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:22 am to
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In all honesty, I would love for it to be all about school and team loyalty, but it's not. This is a business. How many of the guys on our roster do you think came to Alabama because of Alabama? I would venture to say maybe 25%. Most of those guys came to Alabama because Saban is going to get them to the next level. They have no loyalty to the school.

I respectfully disagree. Guess I'm old school.
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:25 am to
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I respectfully disagree. Guess I'm old school.


A few years ago, I would have disagreed as well. But, look at our last few recruiting classes. We've got players from all over the country. Do you think they grew up dreaming of playing football for Alabama?

Sure, some of them are going to come to Alabama, fall in love with it, and wouldn't trade it for any other school or any amount of money, but most players are there for other reasons.
Posted by UpstateCock2007
Columbia, SC
Member since Mar 2009
7738 posts
Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:29 am to
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You can sit back and watch your favorite team continue to be pretty good, or you can reach into your pockets and turn them into a powerhouse. What would you rather do?


No brainer. Powerhouse. If I had the money, I would definitely do it for my university's team. Being a third generation Gamecock, the passion from me is there. The people that do this have more money than they could ever spend, so why not invest it in something you are passionate about? I would rank my passion for SEC (Gamecock football) at the top of my list. At 25, I don't have a family or anything, so I may have a skewed view, but I still think I will be passionate at 40, 50, and even 60 years old.
Posted by bamascott2
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:29 am to
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A few years ago, I would have disagreed as well. But, look at our last few recruiting classes. We've got players from all over the country. Do you think they grew up dreaming of playing football for Alabama?

Sure, some of them are going to come to Alabama, fall in love with it, and wouldn't trade it for any other school or any amount of money, but most players are there for other reasons.

Where you and I seem to disagree is the payment to the players. I know out-of-state athletes rarely dream of playing at UA. They want to go to a program that's coached by a Saban to potetntially prepare them for the NFL. I get that.

You were saying that you'd be fine if college football became NFL Lite...with players moving around to other schools during the course of their eligibility, buying replacement players, etc.
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:30 am to
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some of them are going to come to Alabama, fall in love with it, and wouldn't trade it for any other school or any amount of money, but most players are there for other reasons.


Totally agree, and applies to every major football program.

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