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re: When will the Big 12, 10, and SEC break away?

Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:44 pm to
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:44 pm to
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It is hard to believe UK basketball is that popular


You always had the "dandy diamond" long before Tobacco Road (It was Case leaving IU to coach at NC State that got Tobacco Road going).

Make a rough diamond
Lexington
Louisville
Indianapolis
Cincinnati

Now look at all the historically good NCAA teams (also down the divisions like the one in KY and Evansville in Indiana). UK vs IU was THE GAME until ESPN started in the late 70's and shifted to Uconn and UNC/Dook. UK was in the right place at the right time with that big station in Louisville and the one in Cincinnati and it snowballed from there and spread UK across the world and beyond (especially AFR).

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Ohio State always is playing politics with state schools.


UC had one of the Top 5 engineering programs in the country as they coupled top educational talent with UC's Co - op program (why GE engine plant and WAFB are nearby). They expanded to a state school and are to like 45K students, promised more research $$$$. BuckNuts cut their legs off and all the Engineering talent migrated to Purdue. UC got stuck with the old U college and got whammed a 2nd time by BuckNuts. Being old enough to be aware of all this is why I never trust BuckNuts.

I used to know the top state sports folks in OH and they could tell you all kinds of horror stuff in Columbus that all got swept under the rug and silenced by the media of the day.

Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54725 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 11:48 pm to
Biggest gain in the B12 will be UC

Ohio is a massive population state and very fertile high school recruiting. BuckNuts has had a monopoly forever as the only power school in the state. Will be interesting going forward now that monopoly has been broken.

Posted by AZHorn
Southern Arizona
Member since Aug 2021
144 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:28 am to
The only thing the Big 12 will be useful for as far as football after Texas and OU leave, is to be a farm out league for the Big Dog schools in the SEC, BIG, and ACC via the Transfer Portal..

The schools in the Big 12 will be a good stepping stone for the studs that got overlooked in high school or the kids that need to develop a little to go play and prove themselves then hit the Transfer Portal after a year or 2.

They could be a force to be reckoned with though in some other sports like Basketball, baseball, etc.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 12:37 am
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54725 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 8:40 am to
I think they have potential with a more balanced conference, bigger question will be distance and rivalry issues. tech without TAMU or Utx and CU if they invest in sports again. The Arizona schools mean a redoing of the old Border Conference. Utah could fit well.

Interesting that the old PCC schools who killed that conference from cheating did not go to the Big 12. Question is if the B12 adds the last 2 schools still without a home.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11838 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:05 am to
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That's not counting the 4 corners to which Colorado and Utah are excellent additions.


They should have done this when Texas and OU left instead of settling during a panic mode and taking whoever they could. Now they are stuck cincy and a few others that bring no value to the league.
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