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re: What will classify Coker as a bust in the eyes of the SECr?

Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by LSUdm21
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:04 pm to
Coker passes the eye test. He's been cut from the prototypical QB mold. However, all of this hype is based off of one coach's comment. A coach trying to get a kid a shot on another team. Throw in the fact that he's now being coached by a guy that's never coached QBs. It's going to really interesting to follow this fall.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:07 pm to
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It is possible to have a good/great team with a first year starter behind center.
Of course its possible, but not likely to happen at Alabama this year. Ten wins should be the expectations for Alabama fans
Posted by chattabama
12essee
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:09 pm to
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Of course its possible, but not likely to happen at Alabama this year.


Do you attribute this to Coker or other factors?

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Ten wins should be the expectations for Alabama fans


I'd be happy with ten wins in the regular season as long as it is capped off with a bowl game win.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:09 pm to
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Compared to Alabama's first unit? Yeah I have a feeling there is a bit of a difference.
So because its Alabama, they will catch inaccurate passes? Your logic is laughable.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:11 pm to
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So because its Alabama, they will catch inaccurate passes? Your logic is laughable.


Norwood made AJ look good. Who's to say that Cooper won't make Coker look better than he is?
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:11 pm to
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So because its Alabama, they will catch inaccurate passes? Your logic is laughable.



Sigh....
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:13 pm to
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Do you attribute this to Coker or other factors?
Combination of factors. Secondary has suffered from the draft and injuries, OL is average at best with a true freshman starting at LT, an inaccurate Qb that hasnt started a game nor has played against SEC caliber defenses in his entire career. Also, leadership will be an issue this year, same as last. Add in a new offensive coordinator that has been a cancer at every stop he has been to....yeah, its not going to be Alabama's year.
Posted by T-boneKing
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:15 pm to
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So because its Alabama, they will catch inaccurate passes? Your logic is laughable.

No quarterback's accuracy has ever improved over time. Ever.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:15 pm to
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Sigh....
Thats all you got?

I said Coker is inaccurate passer and you counter with "but theyre second string WRs"

Explain what that has to do with throwing accurate passes

Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:16 pm to
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What will classify Coker as a bust in the eyes of the SECr?
Being that Coker hasn't done anything to even suggest he is good then its impossible to really be a bust in most people's eyes. Bama fans are the ones that should be telling what they would consider a bust since they are the only ones expecting so much.

Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:17 pm to
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No quarterback's accuracy has ever improved over time. Ever.
You think he will be a more accurate passer against SEC defenses when he could only complete 50% against scrub teams and other teams second stringers? Cmon man.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:20 pm to
Not saying Coker necessarily, but what type stats does everyone think that an Alabama qb needs for Bama to win 10 games?
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:20 pm to
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Norwood made AJ look good. Who's to say that Cooper won't make Coker look better than he is?
Whats to say he wont?
Posted by chattabama
12essee
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:22 pm to
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Whats to say he wont?


What is that supposed to mean? Not every pass that is caught by a WR is thrown perfectly in the numbers. A great WR can make a mediocre quarterback look good.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:23 pm to
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Not saying Coker necessarily, but what type stats does everyone think that an Alabama qb needs for Bama to win 10 games?
Its not about the stats, its about being able to handle pressure situations and being able to lead a team. He has zero experience with either

If Coker were playing for LSU, Alabama fans would be dogging him for the unwarranted hype he is receiving, but because he is now one of your own, you are defending him and making excuses for him.
Posted by T-boneKing
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:23 pm to
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You think he will be a more accurate passer against SEC defenses when he could only complete 50% against scrub teams and other teams second stringers? Cmon man.

The last last pass you saw him throw was from how long ago? Accuracy is muscle memory. I.e., the more you work out and throw, the more accurate you become. I'm sure he hasn't done either one of those since throwing in that one game at Florida State, though.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:25 pm to
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What is that supposed to mean? Not every pass that is caught by a WR is thrown perfectly in the numbers. A great WR can make a mediocre quarterback look good
Yet great WRs can drop touchdown passes and cost their team points, even when its thrown on the money
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:26 pm to
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The last last pass you saw him throw was from how long ago? Accuracy is muscle memory. I.e., the more you work out and throw, the more accurate you become. I'm sure he hasn't done either one of those since throwing in that one game at Florida State, though
Was this throwing before or after he rehabbed from his surgery? And was he throwing to college WRs? Doubt FSU would let him practice with them since he is transferring
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:27 pm to
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Its not about the stats, its about being able to handle pressure situations and being able to lead a team. He has zero experience with either If Coker were playing for LSU, Alabama fans would be dogging him for the unwarranted hype he is receiving, but because he is now one of your own, you are defending him and making excuses for him.


First off I'm not defending him. I agree with you. He hasn't proven shite. I was just asking a base question on what everyone thought a Qb's stats needed to be to be 10 win successful. Alabama has talent to hide some qb problems but what would be too much to hide. I wasn't defending anyone it was an honest question.
Posted by T-boneKing
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:30 pm to
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Was this throwing before or after he rehabbed from his surgery? And was he throwing to college WRs? Doubt FSU would let him practice with them since he is transferring

There are stories of how RGIII improved his accuracy while at Baylor when he tore his ACL by just throwing the ball back and forth with his dad. Not saying Coker will be RGIII, but it's certainly possible to improve accuracy.
This post was edited on 5/24/14 at 11:33 pm
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